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Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:53 pm
by Medic218
What is the code for being able to protect your property at night by using justifiable force.
I've searched her and looked on the state sight which is confusing enough as is and I just cant find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
-MM218
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:54 pm
by speedsix
...PC 9.41 and 9.42...
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:56 pm
by RoyGBiv
One minute.... ! Now THAT's service.
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:56 pm
by Medic218
Wow, thanks for the "speedy" reply.
See what I did there....yeah......
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:05 pm
by bayouhazard
All the justifications are in section 9.
Not to be confused with a Section 8 discharge.

Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:09 pm
by JJVP
MedicMan218 wrote:What is the code for being able to protect your property at night by using justifiable force.
I've searched her and looked on the state sight which is confusing enough as is and I just cant find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
-MM218
You can get all the statues here:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/InternetFo ... CHL-16.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:13 pm
by Medic218
Yeah, Fox 4 put up a story on their FB about a homeowner being attacked after confronting someone breaking into his car(

) and there were a few people that think they know they law because one of them is neighbors with a cop and they had this conversation and another who knows the law because she knows that you can have a concealed weapon in your vehicle w/o a licence......
I knew I, among with others who were better informed, was wright with my argument and decided to back it up with some facts.
Thanks for helping me out.
JJVP wrote:MedicMan218 wrote:What is the code for being able to protect your property at night by using justifiable force.
I've searched her and looked on the state sight which is confusing enough as is and I just cant find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
-MM218
You can get all the statues here:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/InternetFo ... CHL-16.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yeah, thats where I started. I just wasn't sure where to look and couldn't find it.
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:16 pm
by speedsix
...facts are handy things to have around, but don't expect them to prove anything to someone who's dead-set on ignoring them because they don't fit their "informed" opinion...there's an old saying that: "A man convinced against his will...is of the same opinion still"
...but have fun trying...
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:08 pm
by RPB
speedsix wrote:...PC 9.41 and 9.42...
PENAL CODE
TITLE 2. GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... m/PE.9.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:12 pm
by speedsix
...and the point of the red highlighting is:????
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:23 pm
by RPB
speedsix wrote:...and the point of the red highlighting is:????
just indicating to others it's a link/shortcut directly to 9, which you referenced
... rather than to 46 Weapons
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... .htm#46.01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or the Penal code in general
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... 1.htm#1.01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I prefer to read directly from the Code you referenced instead of the CHL handbooks ....
And no PDF reader is needed.
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:29 pm
by speedsix
...the answers to his specific question aren't in 46 ...they're in the specific ones I posted...which are in the CHL word for word...and I haven't seen a Driver's handbook in 15 years...are you havin' a liquid lunch today??? you've got me REALLY wonderin'...I'm already losin' boats...don't mess wit' me...and now yer changin' yer hand and it ain't yer turn, takin' off the Driver's handbook part...one of us is havin' a Monday Wednesday...
...well someone found my boats for me...
...what's a PDF reader???
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:25 pm
by smoothoperator
Did you know the MPA was expanded to include your boats?
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:30 pm
by Medic218
smoothoperator wrote:Did you know the MPA was expanded to include your boats?
I think i had heard that before but it never crossed my mind until you said something about it.
How would that work if you carried it on your person, as opposed to a saddle bag, while on a motorcycle??
Re: Texas Law/Code Help
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:17 am
by RPB
JJVP wrote:MedicMan218 wrote:What is the code for being able to protect your property at night by using justifiable force.
I've searched her and looked on the state sight which is confusing enough as is and I just cant find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
-MM218
You can get all the statues here:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/InternetFo ... CHL-16.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
speedsix wrote:
...what's a PDF reader???
A PDF Reader is software program one must download and install to read Portable Document Format docs, which is the format given in the other link above.
Examples: Foxit Reader, Adobe Acrobat Reader, etc etc etc
PDF readers/converters etc:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(Some people don't like to Download/install programs for various reasons/download quota/security or whatever)
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MedicMan218 wrote:smoothoperator wrote:Did you know the MPA was expanded to include your boats?
I think i had heard that before but it never crossed my mind until you said something about it.
How would that work if you carried it on your person, as opposed to a saddle bag, while on a motorcycle??
Yes ... boats fall under the MPA now... even "on Campus" so unlicensed persons in a canoe/kayak in the College Campus Duck pond ...
Well, perhaps the U.T. rowing team will be safer on Lake Austin.
HB 25
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... &Bill=HB25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
added boats to MPA (Penal Code ch 46) effective last Sept 1st
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... &Bill=HB25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
viewtopic.php?f=110&t=44851" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Boats/Cars are treated the same now. Like carried on person in the car is ok, but wearing "on person" don't get out of the car (except going/coming from residence etc) .... so, for boats/canoes/kayaks/watercrafts/ don't exit your boat to walk around the flats wadefishing, don't jump up on a dock to get gas/run in and buy bait etc while wearing if unlicensed ... another good reason to get a CHL ... so one can wade fish/swim/exit the watercraft with the Glock to cool off during hot summer...