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oh my goodness... :)

AndyC wrote:Chassis is $999 from Juggernaut Tactical

Do you think it's worth that much? Also, how much would an M1A without the stock cost?

How heavy is it?

Looks pretty bulky.

I am liking the looks of the Israeli Tavor that will supposedly be making its way to gun stores this year. If I was going bullpup, it looks like a "sleeker" system.

Dave2 wrote:

AndyC wrote:Chassis is $999 from Juggernaut Tactical

Do you think it's worth that much? Also, how much would an M1A without the stock cost?

M1A Standard is going to run you around $1,500 ± a few bucks. The "Loaded" models are more, and they go up from there. Unfortunately for me, the bull-pup stock is useless. I'm left-handed, and that sucker would eject brass right into my nose.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

AndyC wrote:Chassis is $999 from Juggernaut Tactical

Do you think it's worth that much? Also, how much would an M1A without the stock cost?

M1A Standard is going to run you around $1,500 ± a few bucks. The "Loaded" models are more, and they go up from there. Unfortunately for me, the bull-pup stock is useless. I'm left-handed, and that sucker would eject brass right into my nose.

Sorry, my question was worded ambiguously... How much would it cost to get an M1A receiver, barrel, and other non-buttstock parts? If a standard M1A costs $1,500, what would it cost to build one yourself with this stock as opposed to the normal wooden stock?

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

AndyC wrote:Chassis is $999 from Juggernaut Tactical

Do you think it's worth that much? Also, how much would an M1A without the stock cost?

M1A Standard is going to run you around $1,500 ± a few bucks. The "Loaded" models are more, and they go up from there. Unfortunately for me, the bull-pup stock is useless. I'm left-handed, and that sucker would eject brass right into my nose.

Awww. Sorry TAM.

that thing looks amazing. Looks nothing a m1a

That one on top of the car: Does it come with wheels, or is that a crew-served weapon? :-)

SIA

I received my Rogue chassis July 2011. It was the very 1st production stock (#1) and it was pretty cool,
but not practical enough to make me give up any of my MK14 EBRs so I sold it.

The Rogue conversion kit is an interesting option for a few owners of the M14/M1A rifle.
The kit attempts to transform the M1A rifle into a multi-purpose CQB/Snipers Hide rifle.
It's bullpup configuration attempts to do this by moving the rifle action 11.75 inches closer to the users body.
This may look good on paper, but the design ends up transforming a once well balanced rifle
with good, user friendly ergonomics into a bulky and heavy unbalanced tail dragging rifle with
slow & problematic mag changes. The Rogue bullpup is not user friendly to left handed shooters.

The manufacturer payed attention to some of the constructive criticism provided in my product feedback to them,
resulting in their new Gen II chassis being better than the original chassis pictured above.
I may revisit the bullpup configuration when Gen III hits the market or when a competitor comes out with something better.

For ya'll that have used a bullpup rifle, did any of you have trouble getting used to it? I tried a few different models last month and while they look cool and are definitely effective, I wasn't comfortable with them. I still like them, but am worried that if I get one and take enough time to get used to it that I still won't be comfortable with it.

C-dub wrote:For ya'll that have used a bullpup rifle, did any of you have trouble getting used to it? I tried a few different models last month and while they look cool and are definitely effective, I wasn't comfortable with them. I still like them, but am worried that if I get one and take enough time to get used to it that I still won't be comfortable with it.

I experienced the same phenomenon, as much as I liked it and tried to love it, I just couldn't get totally comfortable with it.

I experimented with all sorts of configurations and made several enhancements & modifications, but it was still uncomfortable.

This is the final configuration before I sold the chassis... 20 and 25 round mags work best with the bullpup, but the X-14 does fit.

Dave2 wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

AndyC wrote:Chassis is $999 from Juggernaut Tactical

Do you think it's worth that much? Also, how much would an M1A without the stock cost?

M1A Standard is going to run you around $1,500 ± a few bucks. The "Loaded" models are more, and they go up from there. Unfortunately for me, the bull-pup stock is useless. I'm left-handed, and that sucker would eject brass right into my nose.

Sorry, my question was worded ambiguously... How much would it cost to get an M1A receiver, barrel, and other non-buttstock parts? If a standard M1A costs $1,500, what would it cost to build one yourself with this stock as opposed to the normal wooden stock?

$2,500 not counting optics and other accessories.

Edited to add.... I'm not aware of Springfield selling just the barreled actions without a stock. However, Fulton Armory does, although they are considerably more expensive than Springfield (and better too). A barreled action from FA runs about a $1000 at the lower end: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Barreled-Actions.aspx. But, you still would need to purchase the gas block/gas piston assembly, an operating rod, a bolt, a fire control group, other miscellaneous parts, and you are probably out another at least another $1000, maybe more. So now you're up over $2000....without a stock. Save yourself $500 and just buy a wood-stocked M1A Standard and strip off the parts you don't need.

I am glad to see that you guys are looking at this logically because so many get caught up
in the hype and end up with something that's not what they really expected or wanted.

A more recent review
http://www.netgunsmith.com/2012/03/rogue-m1a-bullpup/







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The Annoyed Man wrote:

Dave2 wrote:Sorry, my question was worded ambiguously... How much would it cost to get an M1A receiver, barrel, and other non-buttstock parts? If a standard M1A costs $1,500, what would it cost to build one yourself with this stock as opposed to the normal wooden stock?

$2,500 not counting optics and other accessories.

Edited to add.... I'm not aware of Springfield selling just the barreled actions without a stock. However, Fulton Armory does, although they are considerably more expensive than Springfield (and better too). A barreled action from FA runs about a $1000 at the lower end: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Barreled-Actions.aspx. But, you still would need to purchase the gas block/gas piston assembly, an operating rod, a bolt, a fire control group, other miscellaneous parts, and you are probably out another at least another $1000, maybe more. So now you're up over $2000....without a stock. Save yourself $500 and just buy a wood-stocked M1A Standard and strip off the parts you don't need.

Yeah, it sounds like that's the way to go. Thanks