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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... urger-meat

Kidding! Now I know why I can't stand McDonald's burgers. I'm good with the breakfast bagels and Chicken sandwiches, but don't like the "burgers" at all.

5-Guys... OMG.!

...they told you about their "special sauce"...(on a sesame seed bun)...

So let's see:

It's also widely used in the food industry as an anti-microbial agent in meats

While the government considers it safe,...

The use of treated scrap meat "to me as a chef and a food lover is shocking," Oliver said. "... Basically we're taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest form for dogs and making it 'fit' for humans."

So it makes meat safer, and makes more efficient use of slaughtered cows. Of course it should be banned from use.

If you don't like McD's burgers, or what they are made with, don't eat them (I don't, I don't like them much myself). If you're a chef and don't think ammonium-hydroxide should be used in your creations, then don't use it.

But pitching a fit about someone else is using it=== talk about a busybody ego out of control.

ELB wrote:So let's see:

It's also widely used in the food industry as an anti-microbial agent in meats

While the government considers it safe,...

The use of treated scrap meat "to me as a chef and a food lover is shocking," Oliver said. "... Basically we're taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest form for dogs and making it 'fit' for humans."

So it makes meat safer, and makes more efficient use of slaughtered cows. Of course it should be banned from use.

If you don't like McD's burgers, or what they are made with, don't eat them (I don't, I don't like them much myself). If you're a chef and don't think ammonium-hydroxide should be used in your creations, then don't use it.

But pitching a fit about someone else is using it=== talk about a busybody ego out of control.

Maybe I misinterpreted but when we have information we can make choices, that's not pitching a fit. Help yourself, but I for one wouldn't knowingly eat food with ammonia added. Especially when you understand that this is stuff that's unfit for consupmtion until it's "cleaned" with ammonia. Hey, They can clean the floors with the left over ammonia. I also don't like seafood suppliers and stores using chlorine bleach to freshen smelly seafood. Maybe it's just me.

This is too funny. The media says that all CHL holders are blood thirsty vigilantes and we know they make up facts. They write about the perils of ammonium hydroxide in Micky D's and it must be true. Ammonium hydroxide is used in many foods and most prepared meats and cheeses to stabilize the PH. Just read the headline "... ammonia based..." do we really believe that the base ingredient in McDonald's beef is ammonia? This is nothing more than hyped up media.

PS: stay away from fast food, that stuff will kill ya. (For real)

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:This is too funny. The media says that all CHL holders are blood thirsty vigilantes and we know they make up facts. They write about the perils of ammonium hydroxide in Micky D's and it must be true. Ammonium hydroxide is used in many foods and most prepared meats and cheeses to stabilize the PH. Just read the headline "... ammonia based..." do we really believe that the base ingredient in McDonald's beef is ammonia? This is nothing more than hyped up media.

PS: stay away from fast food, that stuff will kill ya. (For real)

The Ph is controlled to kill/control bacteria and ammonium hydroxide is aqueuos ammonia, NH3+H2O. This stuff(pink slime) is is sold by major beef producers (not just McDonald's) and is the result of a process developed in the 1980's to recover beef from fat and trimmings and waste that were considered unfit for consumption before. And yes the meat MickeyD's used in their patties had ammonia injected into it during the process to make pink slime. McD's announced they no longer use it and that's the news. Apparently this stuff is used in a lot of ground beef and USDA approved. But then the USDA regs also allow a certain number of rat carcasses per ton of wheat and sets the limit for the number of rodent hairs in tuna and lots of other stuff we don't think about.
Makes the case to buy your ground beef fresh from the butcher/supermarket.

puma guy wrote:

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:
The Ph is controlled to kill/control bacteria and ammonium hydroxide is aqueuos ammonia, NH3+H2O. This stuff(pink slime) is is sold by major beef producers (not just McDonald's) and is the result of a process developed in the 1980's to recover beef from fat and trimmings and waste that were considered unfit for consumption before. And yes the meat MickeyD's used in their patties had ammonia injected into it during the process to make pink slime. McD's announced they no longer use it and that's the news. Apparently this stuff is used in a lot of ground beef and USDA approved. But then the USDA regs also allow a certain number of rat carcasses per ton of wheat and sets the limit for the number of rodent hairs in tuna and lots of other stuff we don't think about.
Makes the case to buy your ground beef fresh from the butcher/supermarket.

And this is why ALL the meat in my freezer is free range, grass fed, hormone free, antibiotic free, and organic. No beef though, it's all venison, elk, and wild pork. We occasionally buy organic poultry, but try to stick to the wild stuff. Now I'm getting hungry...

...you had me at venison!!!

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:

puma guy wrote:

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:
The Ph is controlled to kill/control bacteria and ammonium hydroxide is aqueuos ammonia, NH3+H2O. This stuff(pink slime) is is sold by major beef producers (not just McDonald's) and is the result of a process developed in the 1980's to recover beef from fat and trimmings and waste that were considered unfit for consumption before. And yes the meat MickeyD's used in their patties had ammonia injected into it during the process to make pink slime. McD's announced they no longer use it and that's the news. Apparently this stuff is used in a lot of ground beef and USDA approved. But then the USDA regs also allow a certain number of rat carcasses per ton of wheat and sets the limit for the number of rodent hairs in tuna and lots of other stuff we don't think about.
Makes the case to buy your ground beef fresh from the butcher/supermarket.

And this is why ALL the meat in my freezer is free range, grass fed, hormone free, antibiotic free, and organic. No beef though, it's all venison, elk, and wild pork. We occasionally buy organic poultry, but try to stick to the wild stuff. Now I'm getting hungry...

Good for you. That's the way America used to eat way, way back - when just about every household had at least one firearm. Now the food will kill you and they want to take away the firearms. At least we got the thread back to guns!

puma guy wrote:

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:This is too funny. The media says that all CHL holders are blood thirsty vigilantes and we know they make up facts. They write about the perils of ammonium hydroxide in Micky D's and it must be true. Ammonium hydroxide is used in many foods and most prepared meats and cheeses to stabilize the PH. Just read the headline "... ammonia based..." do we really believe that the base ingredient in McDonald's beef is ammonia? This is nothing more than hyped up media.

PS: stay away from fast food, that stuff will kill ya. (For real)

The Ph is controlled to kill/control bacteria and ammonium hydroxide is aqueuos ammonia, NH3+H2O. This stuff(pink slime) is is sold by major beef producers (not just McDonald's) and is the result of a process developed in the 1980's to recover beef from fat and trimmings and waste that were considered unfit for consumption before. And yes the meat MickeyD's used in their patties had ammonia injected into it during the process to make pink slime. McD's announced they no longer use it and that's the news. Apparently this stuff is used in a lot of ground beef and USDA approved. But then the USDA regs also allow a certain number of rat carcasses per ton of wheat and sets the limit for the number of rodent hairs in tuna and lots of other stuff we don't think about.
Makes the case to buy your ground beef fresh from the butcher/supermarket.

It's not only McDonalds that uses ammonia in their burger patties.

I was reading Anthony Bourdain's book Medium Raw and he stated that most companies supplying the "gray patties" for fast food have ammonia added to kill the E. Coli that comes from using the parts of the cow that aren't really meat.

Remember when some companies advertised that their burger patties were 100% beef. They didn't say 100% meat.

For those who want a 100% beef hamburger you should probably grind your own beef and eat at home.