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Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:29 pm
by philip964
Is 50,000 rounds too much?
http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/02 ... -and-ammo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting how something that is completely legal makes the news.
Wish we were not a sanctuary city, so we could find out if he is a citizen.
What you can't visit Afghanistan for vacation anymore?
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:33 pm
by Thomas
Not too much for a law-abiding citizen, but considering why they raided his house, he was not law-abiding.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:41 pm
by SATX-Scrub
Karma will meet and greet this young man inside prison. And I won't feel sorry for him.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:57 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
SATX-Scrub wrote:Karma will meet and greet this young man inside prison. And I won't feel sorry for him.
I am with you on this. This guy is the worst kind of piece of excrement there is. I hope the weapons add to his time since he was committing a felony while in possession of them.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:05 pm
by pbwalker
50,000? It's a start I guess.

Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:23 pm
by rp_photo
The attempts to tie gun ownership with child pornography are predictable and pathetic.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:21 am
by JJVP
philip964 wrote:Is 50,000 rounds too much?
http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/02 ... -and-ammo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting how something that is completely legal makes the news.
Wish we were not a sanctuary city, so we could find out if he is a citizen.
What you can't visit Afghanistan for vacation anymore?
50,000 ? Darn, I feel inadequate. Need to stop on the way home tonight and buy some more ammo.

Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:29 am
by LongHairedRedneck
Yeah this guy deserves what he gets for the reason of the raid.
I don't like how the 65 weapons and 50k rounds of ammuntion seem to out weigh the real reason for the raid. Our fabulous media at work.

Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:05 pm
by MadMonkey
Sheesh, less than 1k rounds per gun? Guy is WAY underprepared.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:09 pm
by bayouhazard
It's interesting how some are ready to sentence him without trial. The literature that got the terrorism task force involved turned out to be nothing according to the FBI. How shaky is the rest of their case? How much do you trust the MSM to tell you the whole truth?
I'm not defendng what he's accused of doing. For one thing, I still can't find out what exactly he's accused of doing. Exact numbers on gns and ammo but vague about the activity that authorized a search warrant. I can't even say alleged activity because they won't tell us specific allegations. I'm wondering if they'll toss in a polygamy charge, since that's another favorite tactic to poison public opinion.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:35 pm
by tallmike
bayouhazard wrote:It's interesting how some are ready to sentence him without trial. The literature that got the terrorism task force involved turned out to be nothing according to the FBI. How shaky is the rest of their case? How much do you trust the MSM to tell you the whole truth?
I'm not defendng what he's accused of doing. For one thing, I still can't find out what exactly he's accused of doing. Exact numbers on gns and ammo but vague about the activity that authorized a search warrant. I can't even say alleged activity because they won't tell us specific allegations. I'm wondering if they'll toss in a polygamy charge, since that's another favorite tactic to poison public opinion.
Exactly! Everyone screams about how the MSM misreports gun info, either it's all suspect or nothing is.
If you look at what they say they found in the home it just says pornography, not child porn. Search my home and you will find porn too, as well as guns and quite a few rounds for each. The info the media reports comes from the police and they are not giving out anything that goes against their justification for the raid.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:16 am
by 03Lightningrocks
tallmike wrote:bayouhazard wrote:It's interesting how some are ready to sentence him without trial. The literature that got the terrorism task force involved turned out to be nothing according to the FBI. How shaky is the rest of their case? How much do you trust the MSM to tell you the whole truth?
I'm not defendng what he's accused of doing. For one thing, I still can't find out what exactly he's accused of doing. Exact numbers on gns and ammo but vague about the activity that authorized a search warrant. I can't even say alleged activity because they won't tell us specific allegations. I'm wondering if they'll toss in a polygamy charge, since that's another favorite tactic to poison public opinion.
Exactly! Everyone screams about how the MSM misreports gun info, either it's all suspect or nothing is.
If you look at what they say they found in the home it just says pornography, not child porn. Search my home and you will find porn too, as well as guns and quite a few rounds for each. The info the media reports comes from the police and they are not giving out anything that goes against their justification for the raid.
They put what he is charged with at the top of the article.
"A
child pornography raid by Harris County sheriff’s deputies Wednesday......."
I am not even sure what the "terrorism task force" is. Maybe they didn't have any terrorism to work on so a child molestor got some extra attention.

While I feel sure you have a porn collection to be proud of, I am going to assume it is of the adult variety and thus falls under the "who cares?" category. They won't be busting down your doors for adult porn so your hypothetical is more than highly unlikely.
A massive stash of weapons and ammunition always becomes part of the story when a person is busted for a serious felony. Most of the normal folks out there don't draw a reverse correlation and assume all gun collectors have child porn. I did think it was funny that he had a house that looked to be worth less than his gun collection and ammo stash...LOL. Unless all his guns were junkers. Hey... I wonder if he will be selling it at a discount to get attorney fees? Maybe I will give him a call and ask...LOL.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:24 am
by 03Lightningrocks
By the way... is 50K rounds really considered a large stash? I quit counting how much ammo when I got to 50K. It really is easy to collect that much over a couple years time. Buying a thousand rounds here and a thousand rounds there as you find it on sale will add up. I have so many round of 7.62x39 I am seriosly thinking of selling some of it. I have no idea why I got so silly buying ammo. One nice part about it was that me and mine never had to worry about an ammo shortage...LOL. I was at the range blasting through 10 boxes of .45 while folks around me only had a box or two...

Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 am
by tallmike
03Lightningrocks wrote:tallmike wrote:If you look at what they say they found in the home it just says pornography, not child porn. Search my home and you will find porn too, as well as guns and quite a few rounds for each. The info the media reports comes from the police and they are not giving out anything that goes against their justification for the raid.
They put what he is charged with at the top of the article.
"A
child pornography raid by Harris County sheriff’s deputies Wednesday......."
I am not even sure what the "terrorism task force" is. Maybe they didn't have any terrorism to work on so a child molestor got some extra attention.

While I feel sure you have a porn collection to be proud of, I am going to assume it is of the adult variety and thus falls under the "who cares?" category. They won't be busting down your doors for adult porn so your hypothetical is more than highly unlikely.
A massive stash of weapons and ammunition always becomes part of the story when a person is busted for a serious felony. Most of the normal folks out there don't draw a reverse correlation and assume all gun collectors have child porn. I did think it was funny that he had a house that looked to be worth less than his gun collection and ammo stash...LOL. Unless all his guns were junkers. Hey... I wonder if he will be selling it at a discount to get attorney fees? Maybe I will give him a call and ask...LOL.
They said what he was charged with, and perhaps they have some evidence that says he has child porn, but when it mentioned what they found in his home it did not say they found child porn. It would be like a drug bust and when they talk about what the cops removed from the home all they mention is "prescription drugs, guns, ammunition" - none of which is necessarily illegal but all of which makes folks reading it go "oooh"
The cops are generally pretty careful about the info they give to the media and this time all of what they admit to taking from the home could be legal items. That's my point that can be found in many homes across the nation.
Re: Is 50,000 rounds too much?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:23 am
by 03Lightningrocks
tallmike wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:tallmike wrote:If you look at what they say they found in the home it just says pornography, not child porn. Search my home and you will find porn too, as well as guns and quite a few rounds for each. The info the media reports comes from the police and they are not giving out anything that goes against their justification for the raid.
They put what he is charged with at the top of the article.
"A
child pornography raid by Harris County sheriff’s deputies Wednesday......."
I am not even sure what the "terrorism task force" is. Maybe they didn't have any terrorism to work on so a child molestor got some extra attention.

While I feel sure you have a porn collection to be proud of, I am going to assume it is of the adult variety and thus falls under the "who cares?" category. They won't be busting down your doors for adult porn so your hypothetical is more than highly unlikely.
A massive stash of weapons and ammunition always becomes part of the story when a person is busted for a serious felony. Most of the normal folks out there don't draw a reverse correlation and assume all gun collectors have child porn. I did think it was funny that he had a house that looked to be worth less than his gun collection and ammo stash...LOL. Unless all his guns were junkers. Hey... I wonder if he will be selling it at a discount to get attorney fees? Maybe I will give him a call and ask...LOL.
They said what he was charged with, and perhaps they have some evidence that says he has child porn, but when it mentioned what they found in his home it did not say they found child porn. It would be like a drug bust and when they talk about what the cops removed from the home all they mention is "prescription drugs, guns, ammunition" - none of which is necessarily illegal but all of which makes folks reading it go "oooh"
The cops are generally pretty careful about the info they give to the media and this time all of what they admit to taking from the home could be legal items. That's my point that can be found in many homes across the nation.
I see what your getting at now. It is strange that they didn't mention actually finding child porn but listed everything else. All of which is legal. Maybe it is a computer type child porn thing and they are waiting to see what is on the computer. Funny thing is, last time I saw a story about a child porn bust, they did mention taking a computer into custody. It will be interesting to read what comes of all this and why they thought he had child porn to begin with. Many of the child porn cases are sting operations. maybe they are not wanting to mention they are setting people up.