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Anybody know more? Shame that the Gov. decided to not to help out this past time, when the votes seemed to be there.

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Yet....

Somebody will jump on the wagon and pick this up, I just don't think you'll hear about it until the next legislative session as no one wants to rock the boat if in a re-election situation.

NEB wrote:

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Somebody will jump on the wagon and pick this up, I just don't think you'll hear about it until the next legislative session as no one wants to rock the boat if in a re-election situation.

loose lips sink ships ... spilling beans ... letting cat out of bag too early ...

"Slam dunk articles" got too much attention last time so people in DC had time on their calendar to make travel arrangements to come testify here.

One thing that might help write to the Gov. and tell him that university employees
that work in areas that are vulnerable to terrorist attack should be able to C.H.L. carry

Try to get the Gov to put pressure on the Universities to allow employees who work in such areas

to C.H.L. carry

This will get a foot in the door

Way too early to tell. They still won't be in session for almost a year!

IIRC, said in the TSRA mag last year, the Gov was informed that he could intervene to save the bill from legislative chicanery and he chose NOT to do so. Used his powers on other crap for the conservative base but seems to have missed this one.

Maybe coyotes should move onto the UT and A&M campuses to be safe from him.

GEM-Texas wrote:IIRC, said in the TSRA mag last year, the Gov was informed that he could intervene to save the bill from legislative chicanery and he chose NOT to do so. Used his powers on other crap for the conservative base but seems to have missed this one.

Maybe coyotes should move onto the UT and A&M campuses to be safe from him.

Too much baggage for his presidential run?

Certainly, helped him out.

Interestingly, Virginia Tech was just found liable by a jury for not attacking to prevent the massacre. They didn't act quick enough to the first incident which they dismissed as a domestic. It is also well know that they ignored warnings about Cho from faculty and students.

Paralyzed by the liability fears.

Funny that the Luby's incident was crucial in getting CHL in TX but things like VT haven't gotten the TX legislature to step up to the campus risk.

Not like nuts haven't shown up at UT with guns?

GEM-Texas wrote:IIRC, said in the TSRA mag last year, the Gov was informed that he could intervene to save the bill from legislative chicanery and he chose NOT to do so. Used his powers on other crap for the conservative base but seems to have missed this one.

Maybe coyotes should move onto the UT and A&M campuses to be safe from him.

Where did you see this? There is nothing the Governor can do to get a bill out of committee, or to get it to the floor in the Senate.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

GEM-Texas wrote:IIRC, said in the TSRA mag last year, the Gov was informed that he could intervene to save the bill from legislative chicanery and he chose NOT to do so. Used his powers on other crap for the conservative base but seems to have missed this one.

Maybe coyotes should move onto the UT and A&M campuses to be safe from him.

Where did you see this? There is nothing the Governor can do to get a bill out of committee, or to get it to the floor in the Senate.

Chas.

I'm curious.

I frequently hear that the Governor can't do this or can't do that. Why do we have a Governor, what can he do? By extension, the President can't do this or do that, why do we have a President? Both offices are pretty costly.

Oldgringo wrote:I frequently hear that the Governor can't do this or can't do that. Why do we have a Governor, what can he do?

Sometimes, a knowledge of history is useful. You must remember that the Texas Constitution was rewritten in1877 at the end of the reconstruction era. The problems caused by the government imposed on the state by the federal government was very prominent in the minds of the people at that time. They wrote the Constitution to help avoid some of the problems.

Some of the problems that the people wanted to avoid were caused by a traditional strong governor. So our Constitution was written with a weak governor and more of the power went to the Lt. Gov. One example of a traditional power that our governor does not have is the power to pardon. In Texas, the governor can only issue a pardon if it has been reviewed and recommended by the Board of Pardons and Paroles first. if you watched the recent news from Mississippi, then you saw an example of the problems our legislators avoided.

The Lt. Gov. is the most powerful man in Texas politics if they know and care to use their power. The Lt. Gov controls the legislature very well, with committee appointments and so on. The Gov. makes some of the administrative appointments but not all of them.

When it comes to making laws, there is really very little the Gov. can do. He might use some of his bully pulpit power, but that is it.

Lets hope that it passes and students will be free to carry on state property.

srothstein wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:I frequently hear that the Governor can't do this or can't do that. Why do we have a Governor, what can he do?

Sometimes, a knowledge of history is useful. You must remember that the Texas Constitution was rewritten in1877 at the end of the reconstruction era. The problems caused by the government imposed on the state by the federal government was very prominent in the minds of the people at that time. They wrote the Constitution to help avoid some of the problems.

Some of the problems that the people wanted to avoid were caused by a traditional strong governor. So our Constitution was written with a weak governor and more of the power went to the Lt. Gov. One example of a traditional power that our governor does not have is the power to pardon. In Texas, the governor can only issue a pardon if it has been reviewed and recommended by the Board of Pardons and Paroles first. if you watched the recent news from Mississippi, then you saw an example of the problems our legislators avoided.

The Lt. Gov. is the most powerful man in Texas politics if they know and care to use their power. The Lt. Gov controls the legislature very well, with committee appointments and so on. The Gov. makes some of the administrative appointments but not all of them.

When it comes to making laws, there is really very little the Gov. can do. He might use some of his bully pulpit power, but that is it.

Thanks, Steve. I did not know that little tidbit of Texas history. I agree, a knowledge of history is good.

If I recall correctly, Alice Tripp wrote that Perry could have put the campus carry bill on the emergency agenda to have prevented the committee roadblock that the bill hit. He put things like abortion-ultrasound on that agenda (as it was a base pleasing bill). I didn't keep the issue around but it was in her column. It also mentioned that this was suggested to him,IIRC -yet again.

Someone can correct me if this incorrect but I don't think I dreamed it.

tommyg wrote:One thing that might help write to the Gov. and tell him that university employees
that work in areas that are vulnerable to terrorist attack should be able to C.H.L. carry

Try to get the Gov to put pressure on the Universities to allow employees who work in such areas to C.H.L. carry

This will get a foot in the door

Or just university employees in general, as it would be hard to define where exactly is "vulnerable to terrorist attacks". My job requires me to teach quite a few night classes, so allowing campus CC would increase my security on those long walks back to the car afterward. I've never felt terribly insecure on those walks, but as we're all aware, your gun is like a seat belt -- you never need it until you do.

Of course, my students are in the same boat, so I don't see why they shouldn't have the same rights. (But then again, I'm preaching to the choir here!)