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Miraculous Dog

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:22 pm
by chasfm11
CBS New York
April 4, 2012

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/04/ ... -survives/
The pit bull named “Kilo” was off to the vet Wednesday for a check-up, after taking a bullet for his owner, Justin Becker.
The dog was very lucky after taking on a robber with a gun, dressed as a package delivery man. It seems to me that the BG was going to a lot of trouble to get the uniform and then try to push his way into an apartment. BG described in the story as in his 40s. I'd guess he has a wrap sheet that goes along with his age. Dog and owner were very lucky.

My takeaway is that even uniforms don't mean anything when answering door.

Re: Miraculous Dog

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:25 am
by VMI77
The fact that he was standing at the door when I got there would arouse my suspicions --at least with UPS. Between the time the doorbell rings and the time I get to the door, a real UPS driver is long gone. Since installing cameras, I've timed their deliveries.....they average about 20 seconds from the time they exit the truck until they're climbing back aboard. When they hit the door bell they're already on the way back. Longest time yet on the front porch is about 5 seconds.

Re: Miraculous Dog

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:12 pm
by chasfm11
VMI77 wrote:The fact that he was standing at the door when I got there would arouse my suspicions --at least with UPS. Between the time the doorbell rings and the time I get to the door, a real UPS driver is long gone. Since installing cameras, I've timed their deliveries.....they average about 20 seconds from the time they exit the truck until they're climbing back aboard. When they hit the door bell they're already on the way back. Longest time yet on the front porch is about 5 seconds.
....unless the delivery requires a signature. I've had a couple of those in the past few months. One of them was when my Sig was coming back from the factory.

I usually see my UPS driver coming and already know that something I ordered is out for delivery that day. Unless a BG is tied into the UPS logs, it would be hard for anyone else to know that I was getting that delivery. The fact that the UPS guy and I know each other because of the rashes of Amazon boxes that I get makes it easier, too. With anyone else, I'm a lot more cautious.

Re: Miraculous Dog

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:19 am
by VMI77
chasfm11 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:The fact that he was standing at the door when I got there would arouse my suspicions --at least with UPS. Between the time the doorbell rings and the time I get to the door, a real UPS driver is long gone. Since installing cameras, I've timed their deliveries.....they average about 20 seconds from the time they exit the truck until they're climbing back aboard. When they hit the door bell they're already on the way back. Longest time yet on the front porch is about 5 seconds.
....unless the delivery requires a signature. I've had a couple of those in the past few months. One of them was when my Sig was coming back from the factory.

I usually see my UPS driver coming and already know that something I ordered is out for delivery that day. Unless a BG is tied into the UPS logs, it would be hard for anyone else to know that I was getting that delivery. The fact that the UPS guy and I know each other because of the rashes of Amazon boxes that I get makes it easier, too. With anyone else, I'm a lot more cautious.
I have Amazon Prime and do a good bit of my shopping online, so I get lots of deliveries. Just after my previous post I timed another UPS delivery....he put down the package, rang the bell, and was on and off the front porch in 3 seconds. As far as security goes, I have the added advantage that my cameras will show the truck parked in the street. Probably not a lot of fake UPS deliverymen driving around in UPS trucks --though this past Christmas UPS did have contractors making deliveries.

Re: Miraculous Dog

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:55 pm
by FishInTx
We live out in the country and if somebody pulls up the dogs let us know. The dogs are the alarm system. When they start barking we know to grab a gun and see what's up. We usually spot the UPS guy before he puts it in park.
I remember a while back guys buying old UPS uniforms cause they were cool and the latest thing. Never liked the idea of UPS employees selling old uniforms to the public.

Re: Miraculous Dog

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:14 pm
by zero4o3
FishInTx wrote:We live out in the country and if somebody pulls up the dogs let us know. The dogs are the alarm system. When they start barking we know to grab a gun and see what's up. We usually spot the UPS guy before he puts it in park.
I remember a while back guys buying old UPS uniforms cause they were cool and the latest thing. Never liked the idea of UPS employees selling old uniforms to the public.
you would be suprised, you can find all kinds of old uniforms at thrift stores, when I was younger I once bought a security uniform at one for just a few bucks