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Last night, Sunday the 15th, we were at Lambert St. Louis Int'l for our flight back to Love Field. I have always kept my CHL behind by DL, well last night we were running a bit late and by complete accident I handed the agent both licenses along with my boarding pass. He looked at the DL and intialled the boarding pass in the usual fashion then he realized he was holding 2 pieces of plastic and I realized it also. I did not know what or if to even say anything so I didn't. He looks at my CHL and says "I don't like those things, too many innocent people get hurt from them".

I made no comment, my wife made no comment. I felt that was the best thing to do. We just continued on thru security and came home.

GJwitha45 wrote:LI made no comment, my wife made no comment. I felt that was the best thing to do. We just continued on thru security and came home.

Probably a good decision!

GJwitha45 wrote:Last night, Sunday the 15th, we were at Lambert St. Louis Int'l for our flight back to Love Field. I have always kept my CHL behind by DL, well last night we were running a bit late and by complete accident I handed the agent both licenses along with my boarding pass. He looked at the DL and intialled the boarding pass in the usual fashion then he realized he was holding 2 pieces of plastic and I realized it also. I did not know what or if to even say anything so I didn't. He looks at my CHL and says "I don't like those things, too many innocent people get hurt from them".

I made no comment, my wife made no comment. I felt that was the best thing to do. We just continued on thru security and came home.

No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

VMI77 wrote: No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Understandable, but what would be your goal? I doubt you'd be able to change his mind about CHL, but you MIGHT convince him you needed "extra scrutiny".

Heres a poor fellow who's trousers aroused suspicion...

http://jackofkent.com/2012/04/my-trouse ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not particularly relevant, but a humorous airport security encounter.

Sometimes "silence is golden".

VMI77 wrote:No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Same here. The right to remain silent. Probably the better part of discretion to do so. But, not the ability. I'm still working on that.

VMI77 wrote:

GJwitha45 wrote:Last night, Sunday the 15th, we were at Lambert St. Louis Int'l for our flight back to Love Field. I have always kept my CHL behind by DL, well last night we were running a bit late and by complete accident I handed the agent both licenses along with my boarding pass. He looked at the DL and intialled the boarding pass in the usual fashion then he realized he was holding 2 pieces of plastic and I realized it also. I did not know what or if to even say anything so I didn't. He looks at my CHL and says "I don't like those things, too many innocent people get hurt from them".

I made no comment, my wife made no comment. I felt that was the best thing to do. We just continued on thru security and came home.

No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Me either. "I keep the corners rounded off, and avoid sharpening the edges. That's keeps the plastic pretty safe" comes to mind...

ScooterSissy wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

GJwitha45 wrote:Last night, Sunday the 15th, we were at Lambert St. Louis Int'l for our flight back to Love Field. I have always kept my CHL behind by DL, well last night we were running a bit late and by complete accident I handed the agent both licenses along with my boarding pass. He looked at the DL and intialled the boarding pass in the usual fashion then he realized he was holding 2 pieces of plastic and I realized it also. I did not know what or if to even say anything so I didn't. He looks at my CHL and says "I don't like those things, too many innocent people get hurt from them".

I made no comment, my wife made no comment. I felt that was the best thing to do. We just continued on thru security and came home.

No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Me either. "I keep the corners rounded off, and avoid sharpening the edges. That's keeps the plastic pretty safe" comes to mind...

I noticed that too, probably the lamination thingy ... I sanded the edges of mine so it was less sharp.
Still, I'm surprised they let people on planes with plastic cards at all after the 9-11 box cutters killed thousands of people.

Did you know the credit card can be use as a weapon, like a knife? Especially if you sharpen the edge of one side? Our government knows of this...they use to teach it to our spies. Steven segal use it in one of
his movies to cut a guys throat. One day our credit cards are going to be made of a softer material.

This info has been out there,before 911, and I am surprise the airports do not consider this dangerous? But we as martial arts,knows everything can be use as a weapon,pens,pencil,combs,toothbrush, mirrors with handles,belts on the pants,and etc.
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showth ... 8f520016d0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RPB wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:Me either. "I keep the corners rounded off, and avoid sharpening the edges. That's keeps the plastic pretty safe" comes to mind...

I noticed that too, probably the lamination thingy ... I sanded the edges of mine so it was less sharp.
Still, I'm surprised they let people on planes with plastic cards at all after the 9-11 box cutters killed thousands of people.

Did you know the credit card can be use as a weapon, like a knife? Especially if you sharpen the edge of one side? Our government knows of this...they use to teach it to our spies. Steven segal use it in one of
his movies to cut a guys throat. One day our credit cards are going to be made of a softer material.

This info has been out there,before 911, and I am surprise the airports do not consider this dangerous? But we as martial arts,knows everything can be use as a weapon,pens,pencil,combs,toothbrush, mirrors with handles,belts on the pants,and etc.
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showth ... 8f520016d0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah... Heads will explode at the TSA when somebody uses their mandatory ID card as a weapon.

GJwitha45 wrote:"I don't like those things, too many innocent people get hurt from them".

My reflex-reply would almost certainly have been.... "Feelings are not facts."

I've never been in enough of a rush to let a TSA fascist confuse the two and get away with it.
If he has an opinion, it was irrelevant at that moment. He should have shut his face about it and done his job.
I'm happy to remind him of that fact (politely, of course) and would have ZERO fear in doing so.

YMMV

Crossfire wrote:

VMI77 wrote:No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Same here. The right to remain silent. Probably the better part of discretion to do so. But, not the ability. I'm still working on that.

I have that same problem. Ask my wife

GJwitha45 wrote:Last night, Sunday the 15th, we were at Lambert St. Louis Int'l for our flight back to Love Field. I have always kept my CHL behind by DL, well last night we were running a bit late and by complete accident I handed the agent both licenses along with my boarding pass. He looked at the DL and intialled the boarding pass in the usual fashion then he realized he was holding 2 pieces of plastic and I realized it also. I did not know what or if to even say anything so I didn't. He looks at my CHL and says "I don't like those things, too many innocent people get hurt from them".

I made no comment, my wife made no comment. I felt that was the best thing to do. We just continued on thru security and came home.

I would have said, "a lot more people get hurt and killed by the other one ( DL) than they do by this one (CHL)".

I accidently showed my CHL to TSA one time and the only response was they could not use it for identification. I quickly corrected the mistake.

sjfcontrol wrote:

VMI77 wrote: No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Understandable, but what would be your goal? I doubt you'd be able to change his mind about CHL, but you MIGHT convince him you needed "extra scrutiny".

Heres a poor fellow who's trousers aroused suspicion...

http://jackofkent.com/2012/04/my-trouse ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not particularly relevant, but a humorous airport security encounter.

Well, 20 years ago, there is no way I could have kept my mouth shut, and it probably would have led to a confrontation of some kind. In the last 10 years or so I've given up on the quaint notion that I live in a free country and have rights, and I try to behave like any smart citizen of a police state. Still, I sometimes slip back into the beliefs of my youth, when I thought that the law and the Constitution still mattered, and if I was in that mood and triggered a response, I probably wouldn't have had a goal, but the closest thing to a goal would be this: to make an attempt to stop such unprofessional behavior and have TSA personnel kept their political opinions to themselves when they're on the job. I probably first would have asked for some statistics, telling him that the numbers I've seen indicate the opposite. From there I might have asked for a supervisor and questioned whether or not the expression of their agents political opinions to airplane passengers was in accordance with TSA policy and standards of professionalism.

But this is a problem I don't have to face because I refuse to fly, and I won't fly as long as TSA does what it does unless I have absolutely no other alternative. For work, I either drive to where I would have flown or I don't go. Fortunately, my job allows me a lot of autonomy, and when the situation has called for flying, I've simply said no, and asked to participate by phone conference.

Crossfire wrote:

VMI77 wrote:No doubt a good decision, but I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut.

Same here. The right to remain silent. Probably the better part of discretion to do so. But, not the ability. I'm still working on that.

Ah, you beat me to the Ron White reference. I'm also afraid my response might have mentioned that I have the same opinion about the TSA.