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TSA...Security???

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:25 pm
by speedsix
...searching for the story Fox is breaking about a TSA agent arrested for bribery...here's the first page of Google entries on "TSA arrested"... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp ... 93&bih=499" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...doncha feel safer already???

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:53 pm
by The Annoyed Man
TSA screeners charged in LA drug trafficking probe
Published April 25, 2012
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES – Two former and two current Transportation Security Administration employees have been arrested and indicted on drug conspiracy charges for allegedly allowing large amounts of cocaine and other drugs to pass through security screening at Los Angeles International Airport last year.
Seven people face drug-related charges in a 22-count indictment unsealed Wednesday in Los Angeles federal court. Other charges include paying and receiving bribes by a government official.
The indictment says 30-year-old Naral Richardson orchestrated five incidents where TSA screeners agreed to waive narcotics through security checkpoints. In exchange, some of the screeners were paid for their involvement.
Randy Parsons, TSA's security director at LAX, says the agency is disappointed about the arrests but it's committed to holding its employees to the highest standards.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/25/ts ... z1t5FqqQSw

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:34 pm
by Dave2
speedsix wrote:...searching for the story Fox is breaking about a TSA agent arrested for bribery...here's the first page of Google entries on "TSA arrested"... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp ... 93&bih=499" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...doncha feel safer already???
This one in particular makes me feel safer... :mad5
Woman screams for help after TSA molestation

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:36 pm
by mamabearCali
:mad5 :mad5 :banghead: :banghead: :mad5 :mad5

Just no words (or at least those allowed on this forum) that adequately express my outrage.

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:38 pm
by Jumping Frog
speedsix wrote:......here's the first page of Google entries on "TSA arrested"... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp ... 93&bih=499" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...doncha feel safer already???
310,000 entries for "TSA Agent Arrested" . . . . geez

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:36 pm
by mamabearCali
In any other situation a person putting their hands on a non-consenting woman's breasts would be arrested for assault.

You don't know if this woman is the 1 out every 6 american women that has already endured sexual assault and this further invasion of her body brought up all sorts of horrible memories.

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:34 am
by jimlongley
This appears to be an incident manufactured solely for the camera, which the person taking the pictures insists is not a camera, and that he is not taking pictures. Southwest is right to refuse them passage.

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:54 am
by discoqueen
mamabearCali wrote:In any other situation a person putting their hands on a non-consenting woman's breasts would be arrested for assault.

You don't know if this woman is the 1 out every 6 american women that has already endured sexual assault and this further invasion of her body brought up all sorts of horrible memories.
I'm with mamabearCali on this one. It's entirely possible this brought up terrible memories of the past.

What I don't get, however, is why she refused to go through the scanner first. Even if this woman rarely travels, surely she would have known refusing the scanner would result in a pat down?

I know TSA deals with thousands of people a day, but perhaps if they explained how the pat down would go before actually touching a person? Maybe that would help.
Probably a pipe dream though....

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:01 am
by mamabearCali
Maybe she was pregnant and did not want to expose her unborn child to additional radiation.

However even if you go through the scanner if you so much as are menstruating they will pat you down in a most aggressive manner, additionally a certain amount of people are chosen "randomly" to be patted down anyway. So it does not matter if you go through the scanner or not you could easily still be patted down in a manner that is much more aggressive than a terry stop pat-down for simply being in an airport.

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:18 am
by philip964
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/04/ ... ral-palsy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 7 year old girl with cerebral-palsy patted down and traumatized

http://news.yahoo.com/tsa-defends-pat-d ... 4AInDQtDMD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 4 year old girl hugs grandmother and is then assumed to have taken a gun from grandmother. Patted down and traumatized.

Allow CHL on planes. Require us to sit in front. Return to the old non government days of screening, we will keep the skies safe. That unruly passenger problem will go away too.

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:21 am
by speedsix
...that would be a common sense solution to a problem...government will never go for it...

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:29 pm
by Dave2
mamabearCali wrote:Maybe she was pregnant and did not want to expose her unborn child to additional radiation.
Or maybe she just didn't want to expose herself. As far as I can tell, those things have never been proven safe. Early on, the TSA quoted a Johns Hopkins study when they were claiming the scanners are safe, but that study didn't say the scanner were safe; it only claimed that they put out the amount of radiation that TSA said they would. It did not comment on whether or not the specified dose was safe, nor did it confirm the TSA's oft repeated statement that the scanners are "incapable of putting out harmful levels of radiation".

In a March 29th, 2011 post on The TSA Blog, the TSA quotes an AMA article as evidence that the machines are safe. The actual article is behind a $30 paywall which I'm disinclined to breach, but others who do claim to have read it say that, just as with the Johns Hopkins study, the TSA can't comprehend large words. According to comments on the post, the AMA article claims that the TSA's scanners will cause an estimated four additional cases of cancer each year, that "the exposure from these scans is concentrated in the superficial tissues, primarily the skin, and there is no accepted mathematical model for understanding the relationship between skin exposure and risk of skin cancer", and "it is premature to put a whole population through this with out more due diligence and independent testing."

Furthermore, Dr. David Brenner, the director of the Center for Radiological Research at Columbia University, in a PBS report, claims that the backscatter scanners will cause one additional case of cancer per 10M fliers, which potentially exceeds the FAA's entire 2012 goal for commercial air travel safety of 7.6 fatalities per 100M travelers.
Russell wrote:
Dave2 wrote:This one in particular makes me feel safer... :mad5
Woman screams for help after TSA molestation
Oh come on.... molested her? I think this lady either has mental problems or is acting like this on purpose for attention.

Don't get me wrong, I dislike the TSA, but this kind of behavior in an airport about fake molestation is ridiculous.
According to the Arizona Republic, the airport where this occurred uses backscatter scanners. Perhaps this women thought that reliving a suppressed and tortuous childhood memory was preferable to getting cancer.

And how is this "fake" molestation? The more that becomes known about these scanners, the more dangerous they get. What if she had to travel for her job? Her choices would be to get cancer (maybe), get felt up, or get fired. Since when are we ok with those being the only three options in this country?

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:31 pm
by VoiceofReason
There are dangers to the “Millimeter Wave” scanners too. Maybe more than “backscatter”.

The kicker is, you can’t get information on them from TSA. :grumble

Re: TSA...Security???

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:38 pm
by VoiceofReason
jimlongley wrote:This appears to be an incident manufactured solely for the camera, which the person taking the pictures insists is not a camera, and that he is not taking pictures. Southwest is right to refuse them passage.
They wouldn’t pay me enough to pat that woman down.