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Went to a ball game today,disarmed at the truck walked up to the entrance fully expecting to see a 30.06 sign but all there was is a ghost buster sign! This is a Pro sporting event so what gives?

A high school, college or professional sporting event is of limits even without a 30.06 sign. Doesn't have to be posted.

OK,I thought they had to be posted with the proper signage.Now i know,good info! thanks for the reply

There are 30.06 signs at the Dell Diamond, but they are on the gates facing the *inside*. They're only visible to someone from the outside when the doors they are on are swung open. But yeah, since it's usually there for professional sports, they don't really need it. It's probably there for other things (concerts, etc..) that are not sporting events.

Dell Diamond is owned by the city, and leased out. As already stated, the sporting events would be off limits no matter, but the other events may not be legally enforceable with a 30.06.

Keith B wrote:but the other events may not be legally enforceable

This part always gets me.
Just like (and no, I don't want to turn this into a gun show debate) gun shows in public buildings (Pasadena Convention Center, George R Brown, etc), they post those with 30.06 as well.
They may not be enforceable, but unless someone (1) carries past it (2) gets caught doing so without INTENTIONALLY exposing their weapon (3) gets seen and arrested by police, thus, becoming a Test Case, we may never know.

We need a change in the verbage to the law

Teamless wrote:

Keith B wrote:but the other events may not be legally enforceable

This part always gets me.
Just like (and no, I don't want to turn this into a gun show debate) gun shows in public buildings (Pasadena Convention Center, George R Brown, etc), they post those with 30.06 as well.
They may not be enforceable, but unless someone (1) carries past it (2) gets caught doing so without INTENTIONALLY exposing their weapon (3) gets seen and arrested by police, thus, becoming a Test Case, we may never know.

We need a change in the verbage to the law

Change it to what? The statutes already states it is a defense to prosecution if the building is owned by the government. I don't think you would ever get the legislature to change the law to make it a violation for posting a 30.06 sign where it was unenforceable. Besides, there are times where a 30.06 sign IS valid in a government building, and that is if a meeting of a government entity is taking place (city council meeting, planning and zoning board meeting, etc.)

Keith B wrote:Change it to what?

Basically saying something to the effect, "if an event does not meet the requirements to be a valid restriction to CHL carrying at a public owned entity, then a 30.06 is not to be shown whatsoever.

Lets look at gun shows at Pasadena
its not preempted by the days activities to meet the requirements for CHLs to carry" so if it is a defense to prosecution, WHY let them even post a VALID 30.06 sign on an invalid location.
Then as a defense, you must take the ride, get a lawyer, etc, if (or when) you get arrested.

Does that seem logical at all?
Why must someone go through hell to not be prosecuted?

Why cant anything be done to help out the ORDINARY Person, rather than just the business or the lawyers!

Teamless wrote:

Keith B wrote:Change it to what?

Basically saying something to the effect, "if an event does not meet the requirements to be a valid restriction to CHL carrying at a public owned entity, then a 30.06 is not to be shown whatsoever.

Lets look at gun shows at Pasadena
its not preempted by the days activities to meet the requirements for CHLs to carry" so if it is a defense to prosecution, WHY let them even post a VALID 30.06 sign on an invalid location.
Then as a defense, you must take the ride, get a lawyer, etc, if (or when) you get arrested.

Does that seem logical at all?
Why must someone go through heck to not be prosecuted?

The cops (and the DA) should know that the sign is unenforceable. What's a wrongful arrest lawsuit worth these days?

Teamless wrote:Why cant anything be done to help out the ORDINARY Person, rather than just the business or the lawyers!

I'm ok with that as long as the only penalty is "take down the sign". Otherwise every sign ever put up would need the legal dept's approval, which is more red tape than any sane person would be willing to deal with.