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So KPRC Houston is on my facebook, and up pops:

Packing heat has never looked so fashionable, but could it be dangerous? KPRC Local 2 Lauren Freeman looks at the risks that come with a new line of gun concealing clothing at 10p.

With a 15 second video : https://www.facebook.com/video/video.ph ... 8792599157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder how this is going to look, I may have to stay up late!

Thanks for posting! I will check it out.

I think we saw something on KHOU at 6:00 about concealed carry clothing. One guy was actually able to conceal a full-sized Glock, so that was pretty neat. However, the price tag ($150 for a pair of pants) made me lose interest.

I don't remember anything being said about why it might be dangerous. We might have to watch at 10:00 to see what they say.

jeffrw wrote:I think we saw something on KHOU at 6:00 about concealed carry clothing. One guy was actually able to conceal a full-sized Glock, so that was pretty neat. However, the price tag ($150 for a pair of pants) made me lose interest.

I don't remember anything being said about why it might be dangerous. We might have to watch at 10:00 to see what they say.

It was Hoffner's jeans with a zipper in the leg. You're right, there was nothing negative in the news spot.

Chas.

The KPRC story at 10:00 also mentioned a type of bra that might be useful for ladies who carry. The criticism was that a gun holstered this way would not be pointed in a safe direction.

jeffrw wrote:The KPRC story at 10:00 also mentioned a type of bra that might be useful for ladies who carry. The criticism was that a gun holstered this way would not be pointed in a safe direction.

Discussed here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=52327" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Waiting- ... 24695.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeffrw wrote:The criticism was that a gun holstered this way would not be pointed in a safe direction.

As soon as I heard the guy say that, i immediately turned my thoughts to detectives who are in a restaurant, using shoulder holsters, without a jacket on, and the muzzle is pointed directly across the room, and not to the ground.
Every step they take they are "aiming" it at many different people.
So I don't understand the difference, to be honest. -- Unless you say "training", well I would hope that if you use a holster (or not) you know how to draw, pick up, etc.

Teamless wrote:

jeffrw wrote:The criticism was that a gun holstered this way would not be pointed in a safe direction.

As soon as I heard the guy say that, i immediately turned my thoughts to detectives who are in a restaurant, using shoulder holsters, without a jacket on, and the muzzle is pointed directly across the room, and not to the ground.
Every step they take they are "aiming" it at many different people.
So I don't understand the difference, to be honest. -- Unless you say "training", well I would hope that if you use a holster (or not) you know how to draw, pick up, etc.

I look at it like this. A gun just "laying" there, or secured in a holster pointed right at me doesn't bother me in the least. Guns don't just "go off" without some form of mechanical failure. Even a cocked-and-locked 1911 won't just drop a hammer...if it holds the hammer cocked long enough to be set down and/or holstered, it will stay that way unless someone further manipulates the weapon.

Many aren't comfortable with this fact, and I can understand that. I wasn't necessarily comfortable with it myself until I took some guns apart and learned how they worked internally and mechanically. That's fair.

An unhandled firearm, or one enclosed in a proper holster is as inert as a Ring's training gun IMO.

Teamless wrote:

jeffrw wrote:The criticism was that a gun holstered this way would not be pointed in a safe direction.

As soon as I heard the guy say that, i immediately turned my thoughts to detectives who are in a restaurant, using shoulder holsters, without a jacket on, and the muzzle is pointed directly across the room, and not to the ground.
Every step they take they are "aiming" it at many different people.
So I don't understand the difference, to be honest. -- Unless you say "training", well I would hope that if you use a holster (or not) you know how to draw, pick up, etc.

Wow...so glad to hear someone else thought the exact same thing I did. By the way, the Flashbang holster recently appeared in an episode of NCIS: Los Angeles with the female lead drawing her BUG from it.

T.

cbunt1 wrote:I look at it like this. A gun just "laying" there, or secured in a holster pointed right at me doesn't bother me in the least. Guns don't just "go off" without some form of mechanical failure.

I agree with you, and while I do not like the muzzle of a holstered weapon pointed at me, I understand it is not going to go BANG by itself.

At the same point, my analogy was only that what is the difference of the holster they didn't like and shoulder holster, at some point, either at rest or during the draw, it will be pointed at you or someone else.

Teamless wrote:

cbunt1 wrote:I look at it like this. A gun just "laying" there, or secured in a holster pointed right at me doesn't bother me in the least. Guns don't just "go off" without some form of mechanical failure.

I agree with you, and while I do not like the muzzle of a holstered weapon pointed at me, I understand it is not going to go BANG by itself.

At the same point, my analogy was only that what is the difference of the holster they didn't like and shoulder holster, at some point, either at rest or during the draw, it will be pointed at you or someone else.

I'm with you there. I suppose I didn't finish my thought :) If I were going to carry in a horizontal holster, whether required or not, you can bet it'd be concealed...much like the presence of the gun in the first place--what they can't see, can't bother them.

And you also make a good point that, during the draw, some holsters require much more thought and concious effort to draw safely than others. All draws should be practiced/trained for safety and sanity, but some are more inherently problematic than others.