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Re: NVDR
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:27 pm
by MoJo
As soon as I start the NVDR presentation I can't keep from yawning. Is that a bad thing?

Re: NVDR
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:05 pm
by garcia946
Same here
Re: NVDR
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:04 pm
by smoothoperator
MoJo wrote:As soon as I start the NVDR presentation I can't keep from yawning. Is that a bad thing?

That depends. Do you think violence is the best solution to those kinds of situations? If the answer is yes, then your attitude is appropriate. However, if you think it's a bad idea to go to guns over a fender bender, your yawning while teaching NVDR sends the opposite message to your students.
Re: NVDR
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:42 pm
by MoJo
smoothoperator wrote:MoJo wrote:As soon as I start the NVDR presentation I can't keep from yawning. Is that a bad thing?

That depends. Do you think violence is the best solution to those kinds of situations? If the answer is yes, then your attitude is appropriate. However, if you think it's a bad idea to go to guns over a fender bender, your yawning while teaching NVDR sends the opposite message to your students.
The subject matter is very dry and after numerous classes a bit boring. I tell my students that this is the most important part of the whole class. I try to stifle my yawning but they sometimes come out. Violence is only acceptable in response to violence or threatened violence.
Also, this subject is usually right after lunch.

Re: NVDR
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:42 pm
by Seabear
Well, I did learn not to teach it after lunch. These days I don't even break for lunch anyhow so that is a moot point, however I do make it like the second section just to keep everyone awake.
I like some of it, (parent child, feedback, and stating what you need etc) and I actually teach a lot of NVDR ideas and scenarios while teaching other sections, sometimes it just blends better with self defense, or defense of third person. etc etc.
If I stick with the usual stuff, I see some nodding off and have to up the game.

Re: NVDR
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:14 pm
by longtooth
There is some good stuff in there. Especially the parts about being a good listener.
I tell my students the biggest benefit here is getting along w/ folks, coworkers, kinfolks, husband/wife, over topics of great disagreement.
I remind them that when the adrinaline dumps, "Gimme your keys & wallet" at gunpoint not a lot of talking to do then. Time to react instead of respond, respond, respond......(Man they like that answer.)
There are some topics that require a little more effort to keep folks attention than the color code.
This is one.
Re: NVDR
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:29 pm
by WildBill
In my first CHL class the instructor used something that had been written by a DPS Trooper. I can't remember the guy's name, but I thought it was pretty good. I tried to get a copy, but couldn't. If I can find his name and the title in my class notes, I'll post it.
Maybe some role-playing excercises rather than just more PP slides would be a good way to heighten interest.

Re: NVDR
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:31 pm
by recaffeination
longtooth wrote:There is some good stuff in there. Especially the parts about being a good listener.
I tell my students the biggest benefit here is getting along w/ folks, coworkers, kinfolks, husband/wife, over topics of great disagreement.
I remind them that when the adrinaline dumps, "Gimme your keys & wallet" at gunpoint not a lot of talking to do then. Time to react instead of respond, respond, respond......(Man they like that answer.)
There are some topics that require a little more effort to keep folks attention than the color code.
This is one.
The value of NVDR is not dealing with muggers or home invaders.
Its value is dealing with road ragers, angry neighbors, rude neighbors, disgruntled coworkers (assuming you don't work at the post office) and others who don't necessarily need killin.
Re: NVDR
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:34 pm
by CMalin
In the instructor course this past week they used some very good examples. Hopefully they will send us the "special presentations" and allow us to use them!