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Russia eyeing naval bases in Cuba......

Russian navy increasingly eager to challenge Washington

I was expecting one of your voracious diatribes, and all I got were a couple of links!

to many "trigger words"... HLS is watching

barstoolguru wrote:to many "trigger words"... HLS is watching

DHS maybe?

sjfcontrol wrote:

barstoolguru wrote:to many "trigger words"... HLS is watching

DHS maybe?

Yeah, I guessed HLS = Home Land Security...

sjfcontrol wrote: I was expecting one of your voracious diatribes, and all I got were a couple of links!

Sorry.... I was momentarily talked out, if you can believe that.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote: I was expecting one of your voracious diatribes, and all I got were a couple of links!

Sorry.... I was momentarily talked out, if you can believe that.

Perish the thought!

What happens?

Well, apparently they get supported by the media, given a pass to ignore the responsibilities and duties of their elected position, including the constitution of the United States, they destroy the standards and values within the military, further wreck an already weak economy, espouse dependence, class warfare, racial bias, gender bias, and discourage any incentive to invest in our nation by neglecting to emplace any kind of rational tax code that would allow for long term planning and development.

Oh yea, one other thing.....

They probably get re-elected for a second term.

USA!!!USA!!!!USA!!!!!

It's just that Obama is the first president in many years who let the rooskies use the Americas as a base of operations. The last time the Russians tried this, they were trying to put ICBMS on Cuba. Kennedy made them back down. Since Obama's been in office, we've got the Russian air force using Venezuela to refuel their long range bombers, and now they're considering a naval base on Cuba, just 90 miles off our shores.

Putin would have never pulled that with George Bush, no matter what else you might think about him. The Russians wouldn't have done it with Clinton. They sure has HADES wouldn't have tried it with Reagan, they were too afraid of him. Carter, the president most like Obama, thought he and Brezhnev were good buddies who understood one another. Well, Brezhnev understood Carter, but Carter didn't understand squat:

http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/ ... diplomacy/

One of the best examples of a “friendship” between a U.S. president and a Russian leader was the relationship between Jimmy Carter and Leonid Brezhnev. At the 1979 summit meeting in Vienna, Brezhnev greeted Carter with the words, “God will not forgive us if we fail.” Overcome with emotion, Carter threw his arms around Brezhnev and photographs of the embrace appeared on front pages all over the world. Carter’s emotional reaction was taken to symbolize U.S. faith in the Soviet Union’s good intentions.

Six months later, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. Carter called Brezhnev on the hot line and asked for an explanation. He was told that Soviet troops were invading Afghanistan to protect the country from a foreign invasion when, in fact, they were the foreign invasion. Carter, who came into office warning against an inordinate fear of Communism, later said that the invasion taught him more about the Soviets’ ultimate intentions than anything that had happened during his entire term in office.

(emphasis mine)

Jack Kennedy was the last democrat who knew how to handle the Russians/Soviets. That's because he was the last democrat who was rabidly anti-communist. Every democrat since has wanted to see the Rooskies as his friend. Even Bush got seduced. It's for certain that Obama doesn't know how to handle a strongman like Putin. When he told Medveyev to ask Putin to back off until after he (Obama) was reelected because then he could be more flexible, it means that he was willing to be weak towards Putin's expansionist efforts, and if Putin could wait until after the election, Obama could save face and get reelected, then he could give Putin whatever he wants, and it begs the question: just what was Obama wanting to give away? Enquiring minds want to know.

It's bad enough that he's killed the economy, has no respect for small businessmen who are the primary employers in this country, was smuggling guns to mexican cartels until he got caught, has an AG who will happily prosecute white criminals whose name isn't Corzine and isn't represented by the AG's law firm,, but not black criminals who try to scare white people away from the voting booth, has a Sec Treas who didn't pay his taxes, took over healthcare and put insurance out of reach of all but the rich, and on and on and on, but he's giving away the hemisphere to a hostile power.

I would like the press to ask Obama exactly what he is going to give away to Putin, but they won't because they're too busy denying that he said, "you didn't build that."

How's that for a screed?

The Annoyed Man wrote:It's just that Obama is the first president in many years who let the rooskies use the Americas as a base of operations. The last time the Russians tried this, they were trying to put ICBMS on Cuba. Kennedy made them back down. Since Obama's been in office, we've got the Russian air force using Venezuela to refuel their long range bombers, and now they're considering a naval base on Cuba, just 90 miles off our shores.

Putin would have never pulled that with George Bush, no matter what else you might think about him. The Russians wouldn't have done it with Clinton. They sure has HADES wouldn't have tried it with Reagan, they were too afraid of him. Carter, the president most like Obama, thought he and Brezhnev were good buddies who understood one another. Well, Brezhnev understood Carter, but Carter didn't understand squat:

http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/ ... diplomacy/

One of the best examples of a “friendship” between a U.S. president and a Russian leader was the relationship between Jimmy Carter and Leonid Brezhnev. At the 1979 summit meeting in Vienna, Brezhnev greeted Carter with the words, “God will not forgive us if we fail.” Overcome with emotion, Carter threw his arms around Brezhnev and photographs of the embrace appeared on front pages all over the world. Carter’s emotional reaction was taken to symbolize U.S. faith in the Soviet Union’s good intentions.

Six months later, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. Carter called Brezhnev on the hot line and asked for an explanation. He was told that Soviet troops were invading Afghanistan to protect the country from a foreign invasion when, in fact, they were the foreign invasion. Carter, who came into office warning against an inordinate fear of Communism, later said that the invasion taught him more about the Soviets’ ultimate intentions than anything that had happened during his entire term in office.

(emphasis mine)

Jack Kennedy was the last democrat who knew how to handle the Russians/Soviets. That's because he was the last democrat who was rabidly anti-communist. Every democrat since has wanted to see the Rooskies as his friend. Even Bush got seduced. It's for certain that Obama doesn't know how to handle a strongman like Putin. When he told Medveyev to ask Putin to back off until after he (Obama) was reelected because then he could be more flexible, it means that he was willing to be weak towards Putin's expansionist efforts, and if Putin could wait until after the election, Obama could save face and get reelected, then he could give Putin whatever he wants, and it begs the question: just what was Obama wanting to give away? Enquiring minds want to know.

It's bad enough that he's killed the economy, has no respect for small businessmen who are the primary employers in this country, was smuggling guns to mexican cartels until he got caught, has an AG who will happily prosecute white criminals whose name isn't Corzine and isn't represented by the AG's law firm,, but not black criminals who try to scare white people away from the voting booth, has a Sec Treas who didn't pay his taxes, took over healthcare and put insurance out of reach of all but the rich, and on and on and on, but he's giving away the hemisphere to a hostile power.

I would like the press to ask Obama exactly what he is going to give away to Putin, but they won't because they're too busy denying that he said, "you didn't build that."

How's that for a screed?

BTW, I hold Jimmah Cartah personally responsible for my dad being out of work when I was a kid, and then having to take work he wasn't qualified to do...and thus sustaining a life-long injury to his back (nerve damage). My teenage years were often NOT pleasant due to this, and before he got hurt, my dad WORKED, and worked HARD. After that back injury, he has never been the same...and here we are...I'm NOT letting the "black Jimmah" do that same stuff to me.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote: I was expecting one of your voracious diatribes, and all I got were a couple of links!

Sorry.... I was momentarily talked out, if you can believe that.

say it isn't so, oh my what is the world comming to?

barstoolguru wrote:to many "trigger words"... HLS is watching

assassination attack domestic security drill exercise cops law enforcement authorities idsaster assistance disaster management national preparedness mitigation prevention response recovery dirty bomb domestic nuclear detection emergency management emergency response first responder homeland security mda national preparedness initiative militia shooting shots fired evacuation deaths hostage explosion police dmat organized crime gangs national security state of emergency

sjfcontrol wrote: I was expecting one of your voracious diatribes, and all I got were a couple of links!

Be careful what you ask for.

Jumping Frog wrote:

barstoolguru wrote:to many "trigger words"... HLS is watching

assassination attack domestic security drill exercise cops law enforcement authorities idsaster assistance disaster management national preparedness mitigation prevention response recovery dirty bomb domestic nuclear detection emergency management emergency response first responder homeland security mda national preparedness initiative militia shooting shots fired evacuation deaths hostage explosion police dmat organized crime gangs national security state of emergency

Living dangerously, are we? Oh, and you forgot insurrection, revolution, bullet box, evangelical, diesel, and fertilizer.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:

barstoolguru wrote:to many "trigger words"... HLS is watching

assassination attack domestic security drill exercise cops law enforcement authorities idsaster assistance disaster management national preparedness mitigation prevention response recovery dirty bomb domestic nuclear detection emergency management emergency response first responder homeland security mda national preparedness initiative militia shooting shots fired evacuation deaths hostage explosion police dmat organized crime gangs national security state of emergency

Living dangerously, are we? Oh, and you forgot insurrection, revolution, bullet box, evangelical, diesel, and fertilizer.

But, he added one, "idsaster""