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POTUS tonight

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:12 pm
by powerboatr
So i have to ask and will be asking all my democrat friends later ( if i can find one)
if potus has all these great ways to get folks back to work and makes us strong for the future, WHY ISN'T HE DOING IT NOW???
he controls the senate and we all know his man ried is man servant


it soooo funny watching the spewing of what we can do next term....when we could be doing it now :rules: :rules:

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:40 pm
by RSJ
Not a Democrat, but I'll weigh in from an unbiased perspective. (Libertarian)

I'm not impressed with tonight's speech. His 2004/2008 speeches were far superior. Frankly, Julian Castro and Bill Clinton gave infinitely better speeches!
It is hard to maintain increasingly better-received speeches when you've already won the Nobel Peace Prize (basically upon speech), and have the numbers and economy against you. I don't hold it against him, but you won't find me supporting this man...ever...

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:53 pm
by RoyGBiv
Castro - Way too happy. No beef in the speech. Great enthusiasm.

Biden - The transparently fake "sincerity" made me ill. However, I'll wager he was effective motivating the base.

Obama - Double down on government spending / programs. Not a single believable private sector job anywhere in that speech.

Clinton - Best speech, facts notwithstanding.

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:55 pm
by RSJ
RoyGBiv wrote:Castro - Way too happy. No beef in the speech. Great enthusiasm.

Biden - The transparently fake "sincerity" made me ill. However, I'll wager he was effective motivating the base.

Obama - Double down on government spending / programs. Not a single believable private sector job anywhere in that speech.

Clinton - Best speech, facts notwithstanding.

Fair critique. I find it funny that Clinton (with the whole perjury issue) says something to the affect of "believe me folks, NO president could have fixed this"

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:51 am
by powerboatr
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Fair critique. I find it funny that Clinton (with the whole perjury issue) says something to the affect of "believe me folks, NO president could have fixed this"[/quote]


agreed Clinton is a great public speaker, not as good as Mrs. Rice, but still effective.
I was so hoping he would have dropped the bomb on potus.....



i just find it funny they always (both parties) have great ideas for the next term....but never seems to do it while they are in office.


safely exploit our natural resources NOW, new drilling takes about 5 years to be productive, which is why we are now pumping more oil here than previous,
add a 1% tax for 3 years on alcohol and ciggs, to further help the tax on fuels now, that would go directly to highway repairs, and LPG stations for filling cars, and then put in place a flat tax of 9% and drop a ton of loopholes sans charity to the less fortunate
do give tax credits for LPG powered cars and trucks for 3 years, modest 6%
yes i drink beer, and quite a bit, but not to much :mrgreen:
stop ethanol from CORN subsidies, encourage ethanol from beets or sugar cane. personally ethanol should go away altogher
mandate all cooking oil be recycled into bio fuel
further expand wind and hydrothermal energy, solar needs more work to be really cost effective
if you receive public assistance....we need to get you to work if possible.
even us disabled screwballs have skills :biggrinjester:
we could sit at public ranges as rangemasters
load skeet machines,
hold gun safety lectures......

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:26 am
by AEA
add a 1% tax for 3 years on alcohol and ciggs
This "Cash Cow" is dying.........that's why they keep increasing the tax. To make up for the loss when people are quitting.

What are they gonna do when everyone quits? No, it will not happen, but hopefully you get my point.

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:43 pm
by powerboatr
AEA wrote:
add a 1% tax for 3 years on alcohol and ciggs
This "Cash Cow" is dying.........that's why they keep increasing the tax. To make up for the loss when people are quitting.

What are they gonna do when everyone quits? No, it will not happen, but hopefully you get my point.

and oh yes before i forget...he said he wanted student loans to have lower interest rates and no increases of rates....HOWEVER he failed to mention one of the reason rates are set to go up is to help offset the "obamacare" ....I guess everyone in america needs to grab a copy and read it

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:54 pm
by Hector
Lowering student loan rates is not the answer. The answer is to make them pay the loans back. Automatically deducting the monthly payments (and back payments) from any government check would be a good start.

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:31 pm
by pinkpistol
"Automatically deducting the monthly payments" for student loan payments is in place now. Likewise deductions are made from tax refunds, SS checks, etc. And most Federally insured student loans have provisions against being settled by Bankruptcy courts as well.

Re: POTUS tonight

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:49 pm
by The Annoyed Man
An interesting open letter from Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame, to Mitt Romney: http://www.mikeroweworks.com/2012/09/th ... e-hardest/. Sounds like he might be willing to endorse Romney because he (Rowe) believes that it is a huge mistake to try and prep all students for a university education, and that in the process of this shift in our educational system, national educational policy has lost sight of teaching kids critical work skills so that the vast majority who are NOT going to succeed in college will have the skills to earn a good living....not just service industry "you want fries with that" kinds of jobs.