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CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:34 pm
by GunNewb
Ok.. so.. here's the deal. Later on today I will be attending a High School football game. Now, I understanding that the law prohibits carrying at any HS sporting event... so I will be leaving my CC handgun in the car. This is where my question comes in:

My dad will most likely be driving me to the game. I will have no other choice than to leave my handgun in his car. Is this legal? I can't think of a specific statute where this situation is mentioned. This may actually be a dumb question (the first one i've ever asked :lol:)...Can someone fill me in....?

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:36 pm
by WildBill
IANAL, but as long as he is not legally prohibited from possessing a firearm, he and you should be okay.

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:05 pm
by GunNewb
Yeah that makes sense. I'm not too worried about it. I know that the parking lot is not included as part of the premises of the HS stadium. The gun will be holster on my hip before we get to the game and immediately we leave. So, it really should be a non-issue. I don't know of any statute that prohibits carrying a gun in another persons vehicle as long as they don't have a 30.06 decal on their window :lol: ... right?

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:12 pm
by WildBill
GunNewb wrote:Yeah that makes sense. I'm not too worried about it. I know that the parking lot is not included as part of the premises of the HS stadium. The gun will be holster on my hip before we get to the game and immediately we leave. So, it really should be a non-issue. I don't know of any statute that prohibits carrying a gun in another persons vehicle as long as they don't have a 30.06 decal on their window :lol: ... right?
I think you mean NRA or USMC sticker? :mrgreen:

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:14 pm
by MoJo
Your dad might be in violation of the 1000' gun free rule if he doesn't have a CHL. Otherwise as long as he meets the four exceptions he would be covered by MPA.

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:30 pm
by Keith B
I think you are saying you AND your Dad are attending the game; he is just driving. If that is the case and you are always with him, then he is never 'in control' of the firearm. If he should return to the vehicle without you, then he would technically be in control of the vehicle and firearm and wold be in violation of the Gun Free School Zone Act without a Texas CHL, but if you are always in control of the firearm or it is locked in an uninhabited vehicle, then no issue.

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:48 pm
by A-R
Most of this is all technicalities and much of it based on Federal law of dubious constitutionality (my non-lawyer opinion)

If you really want to be extra careful unload and disassemble gun and lock it in the dad's car trunk while you're at the game. Likely overkill, but since you asked.
Again, IANAL just my personal opinion/advise

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:49 pm
by GunNewb
Keith B wrote:I think you are saying you AND your Dad are attending the game; he is just driving. If that is the case and you are always with him, then he is never 'in control' of the firearm. If he should return to the vehicle without you, then he would technically be in control of the vehicle and firearm and wold be in violation of the Gun Free School Zone Act without a Texas CHL, but if you are always in control of the firearm or it is locked in an uninhabited vehicle, then no issue.
Yes, I think you pretty much nailed it here.

I am riding with my dad to the game. I am planning on leaving my gun in his glovebox during the game. We are both exiting the vehicle and watching the game together. As soon as we return to the vehicle, I am going to put my gun back on my hip in a holster. This is perfectly legal, right?

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:51 pm
by Keith B
GunNewb wrote:
Keith B wrote:I think you are saying you AND your Dad are attending the game; he is just driving. If that is the case and you are always with him, then he is never 'in control' of the firearm. If he should return to the vehicle without you, then he would technically be in control of the vehicle and firearm and wold be in violation of the Gun Free School Zone Act without a Texas CHL, but if you are always in control of the firearm or it is locked in an uninhabited vehicle, then no issue.
Yes, I think you pretty much nailed it here.

I am riding with my dad to the game. I am planning on leaving my gun in his glovebox during the game. We are both exiting the vehicle and watching the game together. As soon as we return to the vehicle, I am going to put my gun back on my hip in a holster. This is perfectly legal, right?
Yes

Re: CHL Question

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:16 pm
by RoyGBiv
Keith B wrote:I think you are saying you AND your Dad are attending the game; he is just driving. If that is the case and you are always with him, then he is never 'in control' of the firearm. If he should return to the vehicle without you, then he would technically be in control of the vehicle and firearm and wold be in violation of the Gun Free School Zone Act without a Texas CHL, but if you are always in control of the firearm or it is locked in an uninhabited vehicle, then no issue.
Winner.