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I work at a company as a onsite customer, I do not work for the company itself, just have a place to reside to work with them day to day. There policy for employees is no CHL allowed on the Bldg or in the parking lot. Would this apply to me also? Again, I do not work for them. There is no 30.06 or any signs in the bldg stating this.

Robled wrote:I work at a company as a onsite customer, I do not work for the company itself, just have a place to reside to work with them day to day. There policy for employees is no CHL allowed on the Bldg or in the parking lot. Would this apply to me also? Again, I do not work for them. There is no 30.06 or any signs in the bldg stating this.

Welcome to the forum.

There must be some contract for you to be there. Maybe it says something in there about whose rules will apply to you? If there is no sign posted in the parking lot you are okay there, but it's the building that will be in question.

Based on that information, it appears legal to carry concealed. If they find out, they may decide to end the business relationship. Only you can decide how much you value the business relationship.

Thanks for the response! There is no contract, there just allowing me to be in there. There onsite security had no clue on the rules. They have had issues at night and the lot is not well lit. I work some late hours in this bldg.

Just don't ask anyone. If you get verbally notified by someone in apparent authority, then you are stuck.

Carry on!

My take would be that you are there under no contract with them working for another company. Employee handbooks only apply to those employed by the company who wrote the handbook. You are not an employee of that company, there for the hand book means nothing. I would carry away and not worry about it, other then to make sure it stays concealed.

stealthfightrf17 wrote:My take would be that you are there under no contract with them working for another company. Employee handbooks only apply to those employed by the company who wrote the handbook. You are not an employee of that company, there for the hand book means nothing. I would carry away and not worry about it, other then to make sure it stays concealed.

Unless the employee handbook language meets 30.06 standards, it's not illegal to carry. It's also not illegal to fire someone for having a gun at work, nor is it illegal to give someone permanent 30.05 trespass notice if they catch them with a weapon. So don't get caught.

I believe that you would be subject to your own company's policy. So check that first. Then try to find out about the agreement between the company that employs you and the place where you are physically working. If none of these contain any language regarding concealed carry, you should be good to go - as long as you keep it hidden. I don't believe that the policies of the place that you're working at carries any weight unless they post a 30.06 or you are otherwise requested to not carry.

apostate wrote:Based on that information, it appears legal to carry concealed. If they find out, they may decide to end the business relationship. Only you can decide how much you value the business relationship.

IANAL, but the OP needs to made an informed decision about his own actions. IMO, if he is caught carrying, his company's management will decide how much they value him as an employee. If I were a betting man, I wouldn't take the odds.

It's awful tempting to let it slip and tell just one person who can keep a secret. If he can live with that, more power to him. Just remember, it's his decision and he must live with the consequences.

I guess it ultimately boils down to the fact that Texas is a right to work state, which means you can be fired at any time for any reason (other than sexual/racial/religous/etc) or for no reason at all. But I would at least make an attempt to find the written policy or contract provisions as that would provide the best information with which to make an informed decision.

In my situation, I looked and the policy where I work is pretty clear: no handguns in the building regardless of chl status. Of course our policy also includes no firearms in the parking lot, which was outlawed during the last legislative session. But I'll let that one alone since I really don't want to draw attention to myself with regard to this general topic.

Found this today. The mothership is in MA and I am in Tx

No weapons of any type are allowed on Company premises (in MA) including, but not limited to, parking areas owned or used by the Company. This prohibition against weapons applies whether the weapon is on the individual’s person, carried in a container or openly, or is in a vehicle brought onto the Company premises. Furthermore, while on Company business, employees are prohibited from carrying or otherwise possessing or transporting weapons at any time and at any place (including vehicles).

Aren't you glad none of it applies to you.

Don't ask, don't tell.

If there isn't a policy specifically for the facility that you're at, then I would think that the mother ship ma policy is meant to be extended to all branches/offices. That's the way ours is worded - but you have to go to the beginning of our manual to find it. Syas something like "this policy applies to all locations, offfices, etc".

What about your own company's policy? Any luck finding that or the agreement between your employer & the place you' re at?

Jumping Frog wrote:Aren't you glad none of it applies to you.

Don't ask, don't tell.

Amen. If it's not 30.06 notice it's not illegal to carry. They can fire you for carrying a gun but they can also fire you for reading this forum during work hours or for no reason at all.

I do a good job, at my work duties and at concealing, and why would they fire me?

Robled wrote:Found this today. The mothership is in MA and I am in Tx

No weapons of any type are allowed on Company premises (in MA) including, but not limited to, parking areas owned or used by the Company. This prohibition against weapons applies whether the weapon is on the individual’s person, carried in a container or openly, or is in a vehicle brought onto the Company premises. Furthermore, while on Company business, employees are prohibited from carrying or otherwise possessing or transporting weapons at any time and at any place (including vehicles).

The red part seems to address your concerns. Carrying or possessing weapons while on company business will get you fired. Texas companies cannot prohibit weapons in cars or parking lots except at specific places, but since you work for a MA company, I would presume they do not have the same limitation and would be okay to fire you if they found out.

That is how I read it as a non-lawyer type. YMMV