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FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:23 pm
by Medic218
Ok, I bought something online and had it shipped to a local FFL.
He took delivery of the product on 9-14-12.
I have tried calling, texting, leaving voice mails, sent e-mails from his own website and sent him PM's on the forum I found him on...all to no avail.
The only contact I've had with him was over text to set up the transfer and then a few days later to ask what the transfer fee was.
I've met the guy before and bought two guns from him so I had no reason not to doubt him as he has always been on the up and up.
How would you handle this?
Would you contact the police in that city or what?
This is a first for me and I'm not sure how to proceed.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
-MM218
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:48 pm
by MoJo
My first thought is he is on vacation or maybe ill. Do you know where his place of business is? If so go by there.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:50 pm
by Medic218
His shop is a small office inside a self storage location with a gated entrance that required a code to get in.
Plus, that's just where he has all his stuff. He isn't there on a regular basis. If I went by there and he was also there I think I'd buy a lottery ticket on my way home.
Even if sick or on vacation he should have his cell on him unless he is incapacitated or something.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:00 pm
by AEA
Any way to find out who signed for the delivery? Lots of FFL's have others sign for incoming shipments, then the FFL does the legal stuff. If you can find out who signed for the package, then maybe you could figure a way to contact them?
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:17 pm
by RPBrown
I try to leave my business cell at home when I am on vacation. That way I dont have the daily hastles from my wife about answering the phone constantly.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:21 pm
by Medic218
There is a name on the UPS confirmation.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:37 pm
by n5wd
Instead of asking us (which really isn't a bad idea, thought), you might text him and ask what he'd like you to do: (1) call the police, (2) call the ATF (since they regulate his activities as an FFL), or (3) file a claim with the local JP and have the Sheriff serve him with the papers or (4) let you pick up your merchandise some time in the next 48 hours. I'll wager you get some kind of an answer.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:08 pm
by Rex B
If he went on vacation knowing he had an incoming firearm, that would be bad business practice at least.
If think my FFL would tell me when I informed him I had something coming to him.
I think 10 days is plenty long enough to be nice. I'd be stirring up some ...stuff.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:54 pm
by OldCannon
He's obligated to be available during the hours he has posted with the ATF.
On top of that, he's obligated to log the receipt of the firearm within the end of the second business day following delivery of the firearm.
If you have reason to believe that the firearm is no longer trackable or was improperly delivered, you might want to call the Dallas ATF, Industry Operations center at (469) 227-4430.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:04 pm
by Medic218
He actually just e-mailed me.
Kind of odd timing in my opinion.
Oh, well. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Going to try to pick them up tonight after work
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:07 pm
by Rex B
I think I'd let him know you were 2 minutes from having the ATF check on him.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:47 pm
by The Annoyed Man
MedicMan218 wrote:He actually just e-mailed me.
Kind of odd timing in my opinion.
Oh, well. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Going to try to pick them up tonight after work
You think he reads this forum?
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:54 pm
by Medic218
Don't know.
But I'm sure he reads the other one we're both on.
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:28 pm
by AEA
Were you successful in getting your purchase?
Re: FFL Problem: Item Delivered, No Contact From FFL
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:35 pm
by Medic218
Not yet.
I got off a lot later than I expected.
I'm going to try to meet up with him tomorrow sometime.