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"Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:59 pm
by rp_photo
These are some images I took at the Texas Photo Festival last month. In some of the images, wild west characters have presumably real weapons drawn and cocked:

http://www.richardsfault.com/2012/10.14 ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd love to know any details on the revolvers. I noticed that they seem to have secondary smaller barrels to the lower left of the main one:

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The event was very friendly and not posted in any way. I had my much less menacing S&W 642 with me and out of sight the entire time.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:15 pm
by Keith B
Those are not barrels, the are the shrouds over the ejector rod. The appear to be .45 Long Colt pistols

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:19 pm
by jimlongley
rp_photo wrote: . . . I'd love to know any details on the revolvers. I noticed that they seem to have secondary smaller barrels to the lower left of the main one:
The "secondary smaller barrels" are the ejector housings on those replicas of Colt Model of 1873 (Single Action Army, Model P, Colt 45) revolvers.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:24 pm
by rp_photo
It's my understanding that old single-action revolvers do not have a swing-out cylinder.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:40 pm
by Keith B
rp_photo wrote:It's my understanding that old single-action revolvers do not have a swing-out cylinder.
Right. The have a swing open gate on the back of the frame and the ejector rod pushes the shell casing out of the cylinder. Then you rotate to the next shel and eject it.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:56 pm
by rp_photo
Keith B wrote:
rp_photo wrote:It's my understanding that old single-action revolvers do not have a swing-out cylinder.
Right. The have a swing open gate on the back of the frame and the ejector rod pushes the shell casing out of the cylinder. Then you rotate to the next shel and eject it.
That would explain why the gunslingers carried two - No fast reloads.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:00 pm
by Jumping Frog
rp_photo wrote:I'd love to know any details on the revolvers. I noticed that they seem to have secondary smaller barrels to the lower left of the main one:
As mentioned, they are single action revolvers.

Here is how they unload using the ejector rod:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wfaaZDjxNw0[/youtube]

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:51 am
by WildBill
rp_photo wrote:It's my understanding that old single-action revolvers do not have a swing-out cylinder.
Neither do the new single-action revolvers.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:41 am
by ghostrider
awesome photos, rp_photo

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:44 am
by tommyg
Watch it most of the old west type single action revolvers don't have transferr bar safety or hammer blocks
if you carry one of these be sure that the hammer is resting on an empty cylinder. If you accidentally drop the gun or strike the hammer in any way you will get an accidental discharge.. Know your gun if you have a transferr bar safety the bar must be in the down position when you carry...........A hammer block work just the opposite and must be in the up position when you carry.. be throughly familier with your revolver before you carry it if you have ?????? ask ..... Please read your owners manual before you carry any gun a lot of guns look the same but they operate differently What you don't know can hurt you :fire if you have ??? on transferr bar safety or hammer block
send me a pvt message I'll try to help

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:09 pm
by AEA
As far as the "Open Carry" portion of the Title of this thread........

I do not know what the Laws actually say on this but here is my thoughts:

Actors in costume and carrying guns openly (normally Western garb) are part of the "Show" in a confined area (consider open area "stage"). The guns use Black Powder Blanks (for the large smoke effect) and are not lethal at typical ranges used (unless someone mixes up a live round). This is Legal for the entertainment of the audience watching the show. I suspect it requires some sort of permit but I have no idea who issues said permit.

Another example is the Gunfight depicted by the Show at The Stockyards in Ft. Worth.

Now, before I get jumped on for not citing the relevant Law/Code/City Ordinance/Department Memo or whatever, let me state "This is my Opinion". :smilelol5:

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:59 pm
by WildBill
AEA wrote:As far as the "Open Carry" portion of the Title of this thread........

I do not know what the Laws actually say on this but here is my thoughts:

Actors in costume and carrying guns openly (normally Western garb) are part of the "Show" in a confined area (consider open area "stage"). The guns use Black Powder Blanks (for the large smoke effect) and are not lethal at typical ranges used (unless someone mixes up a live round). This is Legal for the entertainment of the audience watching the show. I suspect it requires some sort of permit but I have no idea who issues said permit.

Another example is the Gunfight depicted by the Show at The Stockyards in Ft. Worth.

Now, before I get jumped on for not citing the relevant Law/Code/City Ordinance/Department Memo or whatever, let me state "This is my Opinion". :smilelol5:
:iagree: There are exceptions for these types of shows and re-enactments, but I am too lazy to look them up. AEA isn't a lawyer and neither am I. :thumbs2:

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:13 pm
by Moby
I went to a Cowboy action shoot once and even got to participate.
It was a blast.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:50 am
by RPB

Burnet Gunfighters search info and video

https://www.google.com/search?q=burnet+gunfighters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=0s8-WOQV-NE[/youtube]
Can I borrow more bullets?
<<Dead guy raises his gun to loan it ...>>
:smilelol5: "rlol"
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_aUlQUpkv4c[/youtube]
Sheriff Tex, Dusty the Bounty Hunter, Miss Dee, Grizzly Jones and Tumbleweed Tom.

(This goes on nearly every weekend about 4 blocks from my house, I imagine they hear gunfire at home more often in Chicago, but ours is more fun)

Legal stuff
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(j) The provisions of Section 46.02 prohibiting the carrying of a handgun do not apply to an individual who carries a handgun as a participant in a historical reenactment performed in accordance with the rules of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.
Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;

(j) Subsections (a) and (b)(1) do not apply to a historical reenactment performed in compliance with the rules of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

Re: "Open carry" at the Texas Photo Festival in Smithville

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:42 am
by Beiruty
black powder revolvers are not considered handguns in Texas (no Federal control?), I guess.