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CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:06 pm
by The Marshal
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Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:38 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Wow. And that took some control to be aware of what was behind his target, and to choose not to fire.

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:47 pm
by tomtexan
I would have to say he used good judgement and made the correct choice according to what he has said.

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:33 pm
by GWE Chally
He's got nothing to be ashamed of; he made the right call.

Had to be a tough decision though...

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:06 pm
by baldeagle
Considering that the next shot the man fired was to kill himself, it seems that Mr. Meely's decision to draw on the shooter was sufficient to convince him that he had only two choices left - engage in a gunfight with Mr. Meely or shoot himself. He chose the latter.

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:26 pm
by terryg
Another story:
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Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:46 pm
by pbwalker
from the comments:
he choked plain and simple, I didn't want to shoot because of other people" that fine but to leave and hide in a store is not...thats a choke. if anything run up on him and cap his <expletive>
What is wrong with people?! Again, a CHL is not a batman license. You are not a LEO. You have no obligation to do anything other than protect you and yours. You can armchair quarterback it all you want, but in the end, you are nothing more than an Internet Commando, wannabe tough guy.

I swear, I need to stop reading the comments on these articles and videos. They make me angry sometimes. :banghead:

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:57 pm
by terryg
I gotta say, after watching the video again, I am a little skeptical. I want to believe it and I know it will happen eventually.

But he was a former security guard at the mall and wants to be a LEO - that's awful coincidental. I hope my skepticism is misplaced. It would be nice if we could get some independent verification.

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:00 pm
by carlson1
He has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. What great self control not to pull the trigger.

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:03 pm
by Thomas
terryg wrote:I gotta say, after watching the video again, I am a little skeptical. I want to believe it and I know it will happen eventually.

But he was a former security guard at the mall and wants to be a LEO - that's awful coincidental. I hope my skepticism is misplaced. It would be nice if we could get some independent verification.
Good points. I wonder if there is security camera footage?

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:35 pm
by barstoolguru
pbwalker wrote:from the comments:
he choked plain and simple, I didn't want to shoot because of other people" that fine but to leave and hide in a store is not...thats a choke. if anything run up on him and cap his <expletive>
What is wrong with people?! Again, a CHL is not a batman license. You are not a LEO. You have no obligation to do anything other than protect you and yours. You can armchair quarterback it all you want, but in the end, you are nothing more than an Internet Commando, wannabe tough guy.

I swear, I need to stop reading the comments on these articles and videos. They make me angry sometimes. :banghead:
Not me, like I said he choked. Fine he made a decision not to shoot because of other behind the shooter and that is commendable but to go and hide in a store is just wrong when you are the only thing stopping him from shooting more people and he want to be a cop...Wrong. Never give up never surrender, this guy is only showing his face because the shooter killed himself, if he would have shot someone else we would have never heard from him. What if he is a cop and chokes when a fellow cop is in the line of fire or worse, cover his butt if you want I have no respect for him. God forbid if someone lets him be a cop

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 pm
by Keith B
barstoolguru wrote:
pbwalker wrote:from the comments:
he choked plain and simple, I didn't want to shoot because of other people" that fine but to leave and hide in a store is not...thats a choke. if anything run up on him and cap his <expletive>
What is wrong with people?! Again, a CHL is not a batman license. You are not a LEO. You have no obligation to do anything other than protect you and yours. You can armchair quarterback it all you want, but in the end, you are nothing more than an Internet Commando, wannabe tough guy.

I swear, I need to stop reading the comments on these articles and videos. They make me angry sometimes. :banghead:
Not me, like I said he choked. Fine he made a decision not to shoot because of other behind the shooter and that is commendable but to go and hide in a store is just wrong when you are the only thing stopping him from shooting more people and he want to be a cop...Wrong. Never give up never surrender, this guy is only showing his face because the shooter killed himself, if he would have shot someone else we would have never heard from him. What if he is a cop and chokes when a fellow cop is in the line of fire or worse, cover his butt if you want I have no respect for him. God forbid if someone lets him be a cop
Says the guy who has apparently never been in a shooting situation.

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:51 pm
by pbwalker
barstoolguru wrote:
pbwalker wrote:from the comments:
he choked plain and simple, I didn't want to shoot because of other people" that fine but to leave and hide in a store is not...thats a choke. if anything run up on him and cap his <expletive>
What is wrong with people?! Again, a CHL is not a batman license. You are not a LEO. You have no obligation to do anything other than protect you and yours. You can armchair quarterback it all you want, but in the end, you are nothing more than an Internet Commando, wannabe tough guy.

I swear, I need to stop reading the comments on these articles and videos. They make me angry sometimes. :banghead:
Not me, like I said he choked. Fine he made a decision not to shoot because of other behind the shooter and that is commendable but to go and hide in a store is just wrong when you are the only thing stopping him from shooting more people and he want to be a cop...Wrong. Never give up never surrender, this guy is only showing his face because the shooter killed himself, if he would have shot someone else we would have never heard from him. What if he is a cop and chokes when a fellow cop is in the line of fire or worse, cover his butt if you want I have no respect for him. God forbid if someone lets him be a cop

They train LEOs for this type of situation

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:55 pm
by carlson1
Keith B wrote:
barstoolguru wrote:
pbwalker wrote:from the comments:
he choked plain and simple, I didn't want to shoot because of other people" that fine but to leave and hide in a store is not...thats a choke. if anything run up on him and cap his <expletive>
What is wrong with people?! Again, a CHL is not a batman license. You are not a LEO. You have no obligation to do anything other than protect you and yours. You can armchair quarterback it all you want, but in the end, you are nothing more than an Internet Commando, wannabe tough guy.

I swear, I need to stop reading the comments on these articles and videos. They make me angry sometimes. :banghead:
Not me, like I said he choked. Fine he made a decision not to shoot because of other behind the shooter and that is commendable but to go and hide in a store is just wrong when you are the only thing stopping him from shooting more people and he want to be a cop...Wrong. Never give up never surrender, this guy is only showing his face because the shooter killed himself, if he would have shot someone else we would have never heard from him. What if he is a cop and chokes when a fellow cop is in the line of fire or worse, cover his butt if you want I have no respect for him. God forbid if someone lets him be a cop
Says the guy who has apparently never been in a shooting situation.
:iagree:

Re: CHL Holder in Mall Attack... video

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:02 pm
by barstoolguru
They train LEOs for this type of situation
so was Audrey murphy or Alvin York trained for what they did. Warriors are forged on the battle field but heroes are found in the most unlikely places. He could have shot up in the celling, could have yelled, could have done something but he chose to go hide

we seen teachers with no training (woman, god bless them) and men die to protect others so say what you want this guy needs to find a rock