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The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:33 pm
by VMI77
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/22/msnb ... -get-them/

I guess we're now at the point where any opposition to the collectivists is "racist." We need to hear more of this kind of talk because when just about everyone that isn't a leftist is a racist then the charge of racism ceases to have any power.

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:15 pm
by Dave2
I don't get it... If someone's afraid of any group of people "rising up", wouldn't they be for gun control? :headscratch

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:48 pm
by bayouhazard
It's not new. It was implicit in the bitter clinger rhetoric.

Divide and conquer has always been part of tyrants' playbook.

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:04 pm
by RPB
They refer to MLK, the scared racist and they'd prefer "all people like him" were disarmed?
Pot/Kettle
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-wink ... 10132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Adam Winkler
Professor of Law, UCLA
Posted: January 18, 2011
MLK and His Guns
Most people think King would be the last person to own a gun. Yet in the mid-1950s, as the civil rights movement heated up, King kept firearms for self-protection. In fact, he even applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

A recipient of constant death threats, King had armed supporters take turns guarding his home and family. He had good reason to fear that the Klan in Alabama was targeting him for assassination.

William Worthy, a journalist who covered the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, reported that once, during a visit to King's parsonage, he went to sit down on an armchair in the living room and, to his surprise, almost sat on a loaded gun. Glenn Smiley, an adviser to King, described King's home as "an arsenal."


in 1956, after King's house was bombed, King applied for a concealed carry permit in Alabama. The local police had discretion to determine who was a suitable person to carry firearms. King, a clergyman whose life was threatened daily, surely met the requirements of the law, but he was rejected nevertheless. At the time, the police used any wiggle room in the law to discriminate against African Americans.

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:31 pm
by SQLGeek
That's richly ironic considering that one of the original purposes of gun control was to take guns out of the hands of minorities.

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:14 pm
by AEA
That's the problem........they are NOT minorities anymore..... :roll:

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:20 am
by RPB
This guy doesn't carry one
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Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:30 am
by RPB
School Obama's Daughters Attend Has 11 Armed Guards and seeks to hire a Police officer .... to supplement/in addition to... the Secret Service assigned to Obama's kids.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... t=FaceBook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't understand why he'd send his kids to such an unsafe gun-infested place.
:biggrinjester:

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:40 am
by Oldgringo
RPB wrote:They refer to MLK, the scared racist and they'd prefer "all people like him" were disarmed?
Pot/Kettle
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-wink ... 10132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Adam Winkler
Professor of Law, UCLA
Posted: January 18, 2011
MLK and His Guns
Most people think King would be the last person to own a gun. Yet in the mid-1950s, as the civil rights movement heated up, King kept firearms for self-protection. In fact, he even applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

A recipient of constant death threats, King had armed supporters take turns guarding his home and family. He had good reason to fear that the Klan in Alabama was targeting him for assassination.

William Worthy, a journalist who covered the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, reported that once, during a visit to King's parsonage, he went to sit down on an armchair in the living room and, to his surprise, almost sat on a loaded gun. Glenn Smiley, an adviser to King, described King's home as "an arsenal."


in 1956, after King's house was bombed, King applied for a concealed carry permit in Alabama. The local police had discretion to determine who was a suitable person to carry firearms. King, a clergyman whose life was threatened daily, surely met the requirements of the law, but he was rejected nevertheless. At the time, the police used any wiggle room in the law to discriminate against African Americans.
There weren't any African Americans in 1956.

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:39 am
by JP171
Oldgringo wrote:
RPB wrote:They refer to MLK, the scared racist and they'd prefer "all people like him" were disarmed?
Pot/Kettle
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-wink ... 10132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Adam Winkler
Professor of Law, UCLA
Posted: January 18, 2011
MLK and His Guns
Most people think King would be the last person to own a gun. Yet in the mid-1950s, as the civil rights movement heated up, King kept firearms for self-protection. In fact, he even applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

A recipient of constant death threats, King had armed supporters take turns guarding his home and family. He had good reason to fear that the Klan in Alabama was targeting him for assassination.

William Worthy, a journalist who covered the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, reported that once, during a visit to King's parsonage, he went to sit down on an armchair in the living room and, to his surprise, almost sat on a loaded gun. Glenn Smiley, an adviser to King, described King's home as "an arsenal."


in 1956, after King's house was bombed, King applied for a concealed carry permit in Alabama. The local police had discretion to determine who was a suitable person to carry firearms. King, a clergyman whose life was threatened daily, surely met the requirements of the law, but he was rejected nevertheless. At the time, the police used any wiggle room in the law to discriminate against African Americans.
There weren't any African Americans in 1956.

there still aren't any African Americans :banghead:

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:50 am
by The Annoyed Man
Dave2 wrote:I don't get it... If someone's afraid of any group of people "rising up", wouldn't they be for gun control? :headscratch
Of course, but they forget that the original gun control laws post Civil War were implemented to take guns out of the hands of black people. The white sheriff's charged with enforcing those laws did not enforce them against white people, but it made an easy and convenient way to make sure that whites were armed and blacks were not.

Gun control is racist because it means that people of color who may live in areas of gangs and other destructive influences can no longer defend themselves against those influences. When the only people in your neighborhood who have guns are criminals, your neighborhood goes to hades in a handbasket in short order.

There is no indignity in poverty itself. The indignity is in being at the mercy of predators with no means of making them respect your person and property. I've told this before on these pages, but the neighborhood I moved away from back in California was about 99% black. My family was one of only two white families and maybe 3 or 4 hispanic families in a neighborhood consisting of maybe 10 or 15 blocks disposed in a roughly triangular shape, with a freeway forming the hypotenuse. Of the two sides that were at right angles, the western side ran along the upper edge of the Arroyo Seco, overlooking the Rose Bowl and golf course, and the southern side and the southern end of the hypotenuse bumped into a pretty rough area of gangs and high crime. But my particular neighborhood consisted primarily of middle to lower-middle class black families with stable home lives and steady jobs, with a few families who were really struggling and at or below federal poverty guidelines.

One night, somebody tried to burgle the house of the old Jamaican lady who lived across the street from us, while she was home. Fortunately, the prospective burglar was not able to pry the iron bars off the side window of her house where he was trying to force an entry, and he gave up and split before he could get caught. So I was talking about the incident with Willa, the 84 year old widowed black woman who was my immediate neighbor. I had made some comment that anybody trying to break into my house was going to get shot. She laughed and said, "Honey, gettin' into my house is the easy part. It's gettin' OUT that's going to be hard!" And then she told me that she sleeps with a .22 caliber revolver under her pillow, and she never leaves home without it in her purse. (She drove an absolutely immaculate all original '67 Mustang convertible of which she was the original owner by the way.....and what cop is going to search the purse of a saintly old lady who looks so prim and proper?) Anyway, I suggested to the Jamaican lady that she might want to consider buying a handgun and learn to shoot it, and I told her that I would be very happy to help her pick out something suitable and teach her how to shoot it and handle it safely. She looked at me like I was a benighted fool and said that no, she would just call her son who only lived 5-10 minutes away if something happened again. I said, "you know, a LOT can happen in 5-10 minutes," but she wasn't having any of it. I think it is because she came from a heavily british influenced culture with strict gun control laws, where only criminals have guns. So there is a linking in the minds of such people between gun possession and criminality.

They think that only criminals have guns, so that they can carry out their criminal acts and force their depredations upon others, and that decent people don't need a gun because they are behaving decently. There is a huge disconnect when it comes to the idea of decent people stopping criminal behavior in someone else because they don't want to have to get their hands dirty in that effort. They want to pay somebody else to do it, and they are willing to pay higher taxes to make that happen; and they don't understand personal freedom arguments because banning guns does not directly impact them since they don't choose to exercise that right. They don't understand that one of the reasons our neighborhood was reasonably safe was because a number of the homeowners were also gun owners. It never occurred to her that, just maybe, the criminal might have chosen to burgle her home because he had knowledge that she had no guns.

Well, almost all of the black families in my old neighborhood were long-time home owners, and in many cases, the black families that had built these homes back in the late 1940s were still living in them. Such was the case with the Jamaican lady's neighbors next door neighbor, the Richies, who also lived across the street from us. Mr. Richie was a WW2 combat veteran (370th RCT "Buffalo Soldiers," Italy 1944). He knew full well the value of a firearm, and he had one and knew how to use it. HE understood exactly what Wayne LaPierre has been repeating, that the only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.

I would like the cretins who say that gun owners are scared racists try going to my old neighborhood and preaching that manure. Willa and Mr. Richie might well have run them off at gunpoint.

Re: The new Meme: Guns are for scared racists

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:14 pm
by RPB
Without getting too into racism ... :rules:

For a bit of little-known American history:

Google "Deacons for Defense and Justice"

Most of the “Deacons” were veterans of World War II and the Korean War. They and their guns protected against the KKK types.
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-deacons-def ... tml?cat=17" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Deacons didn't engage in the kind of mindless and fear-inspired violence that the KKK did; they typically did nothing more than lend protection to residents of neighborhoods and at meetings of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE).
So, guns are obviously for protection of those who had reason to be scared being threatened by racists.