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Obama on gun control petition: 'We hear you'
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So in looking at this I saw the following quote:
"In Friday's video, the president responded to a "We the People" petition on the White House website that allows the public to submit petitions. Nearly 200,000 people have urged Obama to address gun control in one petition and petitions related to gun violence have amassed more than 400,000 signatures." and since it had the shortcut in it I decided to take a look and see what gun control petition or petitions had over 400K signatures... See if you can find it.

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I saw the petition, it had 10,685 signatures.

The entire petitions site lacks credibility. I see no way to prevent gaming of the results; n real method that would prevent fraudulent signees; no way to prevent non-US citizens from participating. The results are nothing more than a confused mishmash of illogical, non-meaningful and insignificant tripe. The Internet is not conducive to governance. Internet petitions do not, can not, represent the will of the people.

odcaloney wrote:I saw the petition, it had 10,685 signatures.

I looked at all 157 current petitions and didn't see any that had 10K for gun control. I saw a lot thhat said no gun control and a lot against Westboro Church, but I sure didn't see 200K + for more laws against guns.

odcaloney wrote:I saw the petition, it had 10,685 signatures.

I think that was a petition to "Stop any legislation that will ban "assault weapons," semi-automatic rifles or handguns and high capacity magazines."

In the spirit of the administration spinning the facts like a Waring blender, there were actually 32 separate whitehouse.gov "petitions" whose votes were combined and added to arrive at the 400,000 figure. You can find all 32--many of which had nothing at all to do with gun control and, in fact, several that were absolutely pro-gun--listed at the bottom of this article:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/respon ... n-violence.

But let's be honest, the whole create-your-own-petition thing at whitehouse.gov is totally useless. Scores of new "petitions" are created daily, by anyone and everyone. They're even more useless than poorly constructed and biased surveys. I'd wager they are largely ignored even by staff underlings until an issue like this comes up where they attempt to twist 400,000 disparate "signatures" over 32 "petitions" into a false statement of grass-roots groundswell in support of an agenda already planned.

That was my point exactly. They totaled all signatures to say "over 400K signature" responded to the gun control. I'm in Marketing and this isn't anything close to "spin." his is outright lying by the press!

I know, I shouldn't be surprised in the least...

Max