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WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:15 pm
by APynckel
Please sign my petition! RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!

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Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:20 pm
by Thomas
I did this research several years ago, so I don't have any links any more or anything.

What I found out was that you can go through the court system to have yourself removed from the Social Security program. The reasoning was that it was something you didn't consent to and your parents did when they registered you for a social security number. Apparently you don't have to register for a Social Security Number. But for your taxes, you will need to get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN). The only successful cases I've heard of were when the people petitioning the court recently turned 18.

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:23 pm
by APynckel
Yea, I never signed up for this behemoth theft of wealth and redistribution, why am I subject to it?

They waste the money that I put into it anyways, it's just another revenue slush fund for them to fund more earmarks and pet projects anyways. It will be insolvent in a decade.

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:46 pm
by alvins
if you dont have a ssn how are you ever going to get credit or apply for a mortgage or anything else you need the number for?

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:48 pm
by APynckel
alvins wrote:if you dont have a ssn how are you ever going to get credit or apply for a mortgage or anything else you need the number for?
Keep the numbering system, remove the theft.

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:49 pm
by Thomas
alvins wrote:if you dont have a ssn how are you ever going to get credit or apply for a mortgage or anything else you need the number for?
ITIN

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:34 pm
by jimlongley
Thomas wrote:I did this research several years ago, so I don't have any links any more or anything.

What I found out was that you can go through the court system to have yourself removed from the Social Security program. The reasoning was that it was something you didn't consent to and your parents did when they registered you for a social security number. Apparently you don't have to register for a Social Security Number. But for your taxes, you will need to get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN). The only successful cases I've heard of were when the people petitioning the court recently turned 18.
My parents did not register me, I registered myself right after I turned 18. Back in those days there was no requirement to have a Social Security Insurance Identification Number. By that logic, I should be able to opt out, correct?

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:39 pm
by Thomas
jimlongley wrote:
Thomas wrote:I did this research several years ago, so I don't have any links any more or anything.

What I found out was that you can go through the court system to have yourself removed from the Social Security program. The reasoning was that it was something you didn't consent to and your parents did when they registered you for a social security number. Apparently you don't have to register for a Social Security Number. But for your taxes, you will need to get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN). The only successful cases I've heard of were when the people petitioning the court recently turned 18.
My parents did not register me, I registered myself right after I turned 18. Back in those days there was no requirement to have a Social Security Insurance Identification Number. By that logic, I should be able to opt out, correct?
Since you registered yourself when you were a legal adult competent to make such a decision, it would probably be extremely difficult if not impossible IMO. I did a quick Google search earlier today and it looks like the topic has been discussed a bit more recently. Who knows, it might be easy. I don't know.

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:55 pm
by bnc
I'd be more than happy to let SS keep what they have taken, never take more, and never send me anything if I could opt out of it today.

Re: WH Petiton To Allow Social Security Opt Out

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:55 pm
by The Dude
alvins wrote:if you dont have a ssn how are you ever going to get credit or apply for a mortgage or anything else you need the number for?
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