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Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:36 pm
by Kythas
Obama is wanting national Federal gun registration and broader, more comprehensive gun control than Feinstein's assault weapons ban bill.

He's also willing to implement what he can via executive order.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... print.html

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:56 pm
by Gameover
This is just crazy! What will this accomplish? Complete disregard for the constitution! Nothing mentioned will do a single thing to stop an crazy person from doing what they are set out to do! :mad5 :mad5 :mad5

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:20 pm
by AEA
Not good my friends and it is embarrassing to see high ranking LEO's agree with this spiel.

Not surprising that Bloomberg is involved, but who in their right mind will listen, much less consider, anything Bloomberg has to say?

It does not surprise me that MaoBama continues to say "the majority of the people support gun control". I understand what he means now, he is saying EXACTLY what he means......
The majority that voted for him support it. And who are they? I think most folks here know........
It will help them considerably. They will have a much easier time in their chosen occupations.....get my drift?

And finally, why can't they all understand that gun control is not the answer? Simply look at Chicago and you can see that gun control does not work to mitigate or eliminate any of the threats that that need addressing......

When will they understand it is not the good guys causing the problems and leave us alone?

I'll tell you why......
Gun control is NOT their main objective. It is only a starting point to turn this Country into another EU/UK, complete with bankruptcy.

The outcome will be instead of killing a robber/rapist in your home, you help them do the deed and ask if there is anything else you can give them. If you don't, then YOU go to jail!

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:59 pm
by LabRat
AEA wrote:........snip

When will they understand it is not the good guys causing the problems and leave us alone?

snip........
I agree with you, but......

The Federal government considers ALL of us to be the bad guys. Anyone with a gun is a bad guy; period.
This mindset may eventually include local police departments as well, if it doesn't already.

LabRat

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:01 am
by mamabearCali
AEA wrote:Not good my friends and it is embarrassing to see high ranking LEO's agree with this spiel.

Not surprising that Bloomberg is involved, but who in their right mind will listen, much less consider, anything Bloomberg has to say?

It does not surprise me that MaoBama continues to say "the majority of the people support gun control". I understand what he means now, he is saying EXACTLY what he means......
The majority that voted for him support it. And who are they? I think most folks here know........
It will help them considerably. They will have a much easier time in their chosen occupations.....get my drift?

And finally, why can't they all understand that gun control is not the answer? Simply look at Chicago and you can see that gun control does not work to mitigate or eliminate any of the threats that that need addressing......

When will they understand it is not the good guys causing the problems and leave us alone?

I'll tell you why......
Gun control is NOT their main objective. It is only a starting point to turn this Country into another EU/UK, complete with bankruptcy.

The outcome will be instead of killing a robber/rapist in your home, you help them do the deed and ask if there is anything else you can give them. If you don't, then YOU go to jail!
One of those "high ranking LEOs was from a local city here. He is a rabid anti- gun for anyone except LEO s. the deck was stacked in such a way that would make a 60 year old card cheat blush.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:03 am
by philip964
Apparently they want stiffer sentences for guns at school. I guess they are worried some teachers may carry for protection.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:11 am
by Jimineer
Kythas wrote:Obama is wanting national Federal gun registration and broader, more comprehensive gun control than Feinstein's assault weapons ban bill.

He's also willing to implement what he can via executive order.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... print.html
"“This is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview broadcast last Sunday."

Did you watch MTP? Obama had to be asked about it by the criminal David Gregory. Obama didn't come off that strong on it to me. He knows he has a big risk of losing and he won't want to go there. Plus, if civil unrest of proportions not seen in this country occur, that will always follow him in the history books.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:38 am
by handog
“As we get involved in these ad nauseam debates over the Second Amendment, our children are still at risk,” said Jon Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. “Debating is not the action verb we need to protect our children.”

The Second Amendment is not, and never has been up for debate. Here's what makes ME nauseous. When these political tyrants use "the children" to further their communist agenda. If they were concerned about the children they would go after the pharmaceutical drugs. The cause of nearly all mass violent shooting sprees. But it's not about safety. It's about fear and an imminent financial collapse. Those who are responsible are so afraid they want to confiscate guns to avoid accountability.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:58 am
by Excaliber
Time spent addressing the current assault on our rights by rational arguments showing that the proposed actions will make us safer is wasted time. The O team knows that, and citizen safety is not their objective - just their cover story.

We need to consistently frame the issue as what it is - a treasonous assault on the God given (not government granted) right that is the cornerstone of the Constitution. The obvious objective is to make the country safe for tyranny by removing the most effective means of resistance that our founding fathers built in precisely so no tyrant could be successful.

In sound bite format, it is OSHA for tyrants.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:03 am
by texanjoker
I guess I shouldn't have read that. I just got up and am trying to relax and drink a cup of coffee. That just irked my hide! I am getting a chuckle on the immigration reform mentioned. I guess the president has to find a way to allow those relatives making the news to stay here legally. Back on this topic I imagine we will not be able to buy any magazines/rifles that were already manufactured. I was discussing that at GT's the other day. They have upwards of 1000 rifles on back order. I would be once this ban goes through those sales will be void. I guess I should sale mine and go by me a motorcycle.

I guess we will know by 01/31/13 . That could be a date that generations remember.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:04 am
by Jaguar
He has no plans for gun control, that's crazy talk. Just listen to (then candidate) Obama, in his own words.
Obama: I Will NOT Take Your Guns Away

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-wi ... -guns-away" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

/sarcasm

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:19 am
by jdhz28
Jaguar wrote:He has no plans for gun control, that's crazy talk. Just listen to (then candidate) Obama, in his own words.
Obama: I Will NOT Take Your Guns Away

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-wi ... -guns-away" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

/sarcasm
I a conversation with an acquaintance a few months back...he is a liberal, but an odd one. He voted for O but he has been to Gunsite, he shoots IDPA, and is a generally nice guy. I told him that all it will take is for one major incident, staged or real, then O will push for gun control. He cited to me that same thing, "Obama is pro 2A he doesn't our guns" At any rate the guy thought I was a conspiracy theorist nut job...turns out I was right. A pot by any other name....

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:47 am
by Bob in Big D
Excaliber wrote:Time spent addressing the current assault on our rights by rational arguments showing that the proposed actions will make us safer is wasted time. The O team knows that, and citizen safety is not their objective - just their cover story.

We need to consistently frame the issue as what it is - a treasonous assault on the God given (not government granted) right that is the cornerstone of the Constitution. The obvious objective is to make the country safe for tyranny by removing the most effective means of resistance that our founding fathers built in precisely so no tyrant could be successful.

In sound bite format, it is OSHA for tyrants.
I agree 100%
Now how do we get them indicted for Treason?

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:09 pm
by DEB
Bob in Big D wrote:
Excaliber wrote:Time spent addressing the current assault on our rights by rational arguments showing that the proposed actions will make us safer is wasted time. The O team knows that, and citizen safety is not their objective - just their cover story.

We need to consistently frame the issue as what it is - a treasonous assault on the God given (not government granted) right that is the cornerstone of the Constitution. The obvious objective is to make the country safe for tyranny by removing the most effective means of resistance that our founding fathers built in precisely so no tyrant could be successful.

In sound bite format, it is OSHA for tyrants.
I agree 100%
Now how do we get them indicted for Treason?
IMO, the only way any Nation can get those in senior levels of power indicted for treason is by the Romanian way. Remember Nicolae Ceaușescu and his wife? Dictators don't give up power to the people it is retaken by the people, thus the 2nd Amendment. I don't think this is the last assault as well, I also believe we are in the beginnings of something that is going to radically change this Nation and not for the better. Guns go, then...? One of the only things keeping me in humor is that if they continue to follow Lenin's teachings; then the Liberal, whom he called useful idiots, will be on the edge of the ditch alongside me.

Re: Obama Plans Broad Gun Control Measures

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:21 pm
by Heartland Patriot
DEB wrote:
Bob in Big D wrote:
Excaliber wrote:Time spent addressing the current assault on our rights by rational arguments showing that the proposed actions will make us safer is wasted time. The O team knows that, and citizen safety is not their objective - just their cover story.

We need to consistently frame the issue as what it is - a treasonous assault on the God given (not government granted) right that is the cornerstone of the Constitution. The obvious objective is to make the country safe for tyranny by removing the most effective means of resistance that our founding fathers built in precisely so no tyrant could be successful.

In sound bite format, it is OSHA for tyrants.
I agree 100%
Now how do we get them indicted for Treason?
IMO, the only way any Nation can get those in senior levels of power indicted for treason is by the Romanian way. Remember Nicolae Ceaușescu and his wife? Dictators don't give up power to the people it is retaken by the people, thus the 2nd Amendment. I don't think this is the last assault as well, I also believe we are in the beginnings of something that is going to radically change this Nation and not for the better. Guns go, then...? One of the only things keeping me in humor is that if they continue to follow Lenin's teachings; then the Liberal, whom he called useful idiots, will be on the edge of the ditch alongside me.
The political left doesn't see individuals...they are collectivists and see only groups and attempt to use such groups as tools to acquire power and push their ideology. All "voting blocks" are used as tools by the political left. Any tool, once it has outlived its usefulness, is tossed into the scrap bin. The moment the political left has no more use for the "black community" or the LGBT community, or any of the others, they will toss them aside. Anyone who thinks ANY politician "cares" about them are dimwits. I don't want politicians to "care" about me, I want them to do the job they were elected to do.