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Analysis of Numbers used by Piers Morgan

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:07 pm
by gthaustex
Saw this analysis of the numbers quoted by Piers Morgan during the Alex Jones "debate". It provides some interesting information on not only gun usage, but also crime, especially violent crime compared across different nations.

http://www.fox19.com/story/20538164/pie ... cide-rates

The overall data and argument Piers makes doesn't stand up to rational examination in my ever so humble opinion....

Re: Analysis of Numbers used by Piers Morgan

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:13 pm
by RoyGBiv
This was an EXCELLENT analysis and rebuttal. I'm sorry it took me so long to watch it..
Here's the simplified version..

Credit to Ben Swan of Fox19 in Cincy.

(GRH = Gun related homicides)
Morgan claims: UK: 35 GRH and USA: 11,000 GRH in 2011
Actual: UK: 59 and USA 8583, of which 660 were "justifiable" by either LE or citizens. Net USA = 7,923 GRH in 2011

The USA has the highest gun ownership rate in the world. 88 guns per 100 people. (Yemen is #2 at 54.8/100)
But does the gun ownership rate translate to higher violent crime??

The USA is #28 in GRH, with a rate of 2.97/100,000 (in 2011)
The UK has the #2 highest overall crime rate in the EU.
UK: 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000
USA: 466 violent crimes per 100,000

My analysis:
The UK has "No Guns". The USA his "The Most Guns".
The UK GRH rate is roughly half that of the USA (1.49 vs 2.97)....
Shouldn't a total ban on guns have resulted in a lower GRH rate?
Not only are the GRH vs GRH results mediocre, but the UK has traded gun crime for dramatically more violent crime.
The violent crime rate in the UK is 2.03% overall (2034/100K), vs the USA rate of 0.47% (466/100k).
That's 4.3 times MORE violent crime per capita in the UK vs the US of A.

So :tiphat: you Piers.

Here's the data references:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... -list#data
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-U-S.html

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