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Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:04 pm
by mikey1969
Question ............... would a high capacity mag ban allow those already purchased to be grandfathered in ...... or would they be banned / illegal to use just like they are in california ??

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:18 pm
by JALLEN
Magazines greater than 10 round capacity are allowed in California now if you owned them here before whatever the magic date is, 12/31/1999 or something like that. You can't buy or bring them in after that date legally.

I have some 25 round magazines for my 10/22 that I bought back in the early 80's or so, perfectly legal. Once I take them out of California, I can't bring them back in. I don't mean driving over to Yuma for a weekend then crossing back into CA, I mean moving out then moving back.

You can have "assault weapons" which are banned by make and model, Uzi for example, or possessing "evil features" pistol grip, detachable magazine, flash hider etc., if you owned them before the magic date, and I think you have to register them to retain the exemption. I don't have any from back then.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:31 pm
by mikey1969
JALLEN wrote:Magazines greater than 10 round capacity are allowed in California now if you owned them here before whatever the magic date is, 12/31/1999 or something like that. You can't buy or bring them in after that date legally.

I have some 25 round magazines for my 10/22 that I bought back in the early 80's or so, perfectly legal. Once I take them out of California, I can't bring them back in. I don't mean driving over to Yuma for a weekend then crossing back into CA, I mean moving out then moving back.

You can have "assault weapons" which are banned by make and model, Uzi for example, or possessing "evil features" pistol grip, detachable magazine, flash hider etc., if you owned them before the magic date, and I think you have to register them to retain the exemption. I don't have any from back then.
I appreciate the reply sir :tiphat: so no problem for you to take them to the range for a days shooting then ?

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:52 pm
by VMI77
mikey1969 wrote:Question ............... would a high capacity mag ban allow those already purchased to be grandfathered in ...... or would they be banned / illegal to use just like they are in california ??
They made them illegal to use in New York, so I don't think we will know until the legislation is on the table....and probably not until it's passed, as they will try to keep it a secret to minimize opposition.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:36 pm
by punkndisorderly
What the law states when passed and signed into law is what the law is.

Could be grandfathered in. Could require them to be registered with BATFE. Could be reqired to turn them in. Could be required to donate them for use by freedom fighters in Sub-saharan Africa.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:41 pm
by Dave2
punkndisorderly wrote:What the law states when passed and signed into law is what the law is.

Could be grandfathered in. Could require them to be registered with BATFE.
How am I supposed to register something that's not serialed?

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:59 pm
by punkndisorderly
Good point.

The point I was trying, albeit badly, was no one knows what the final law would say.

Are silencers numbered?

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:03 pm
by Wes
punkndisorderly wrote:Are silencers numbered?
Yes, with mnfrs name and address too. All nfa items are.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:11 pm
by texanjoker
JALLEN wrote:Magazines greater than 10 round capacity are allowed in California now if you owned them here before whatever the magic date is, 12/31/1999 or something like that. You can't buy or bring them in after that date legally.

I have some 25 round magazines for my 10/22 that I bought back in the early 80's or so, perfectly legal. Once I take them out of California, I can't bring them back in. I don't mean driving over to Yuma for a weekend then crossing back into CA, I mean moving out then moving back.

You can have "assault weapons" which are banned by make and model, Uzi for example, or possessing "evil features" pistol grip, detachable magazine, flash hider etc., if you owned them before the magic date, and I think you have to register them to retain the exemption. I don't have any from back then.
Correct. Senate Bill 23...You had to pay $25 a rifle to keep them, and they only let you register for a short period.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:48 pm
by mlawler
Will you people please STOP using the term 'high capacity magazines!!!!' They are the mechanical, design full capacity. The correct derogitory term should be directed at the 'politically limited' 10 round mags. The only effect that a limitation ban has is to drive the prices of the full cap mags through the roof. I recall 17rnd Glock mags once being in the $125-$150 range!

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:55 pm
by JALLEN
mikey1969 wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Magazines greater than 10 round capacity are allowed in California now if you owned them here before whatever the magic date is, 12/31/1999 or something like that. You can't buy or bring them in after that date legally.

I have some 25 round magazines for my 10/22 that I bought back in the early 80's or so, perfectly legal. Once I take them out of California, I can't bring them back in. I don't mean driving over to Yuma for a weekend then crossing back into CA, I mean moving out then moving back.

You can have "assault weapons" which are banned by make and model, Uzi for example, or possessing "evil features" pistol grip, detachable magazine, flash hider etc., if you owned them before the magic date, and I think you have to register them to retain the exemption. I don't have any from back then.
I appreciate the reply sir :tiphat: so no problem for you to take them to the range for a days shooting then ?
I've never had a problem, but I have heard of some folks being questioned, usually with AR-15 variants with no bullet button before those things came into general usage, large magazines, so rare here they stand out. Nobody pays much attention to a dignified, portly and mature gentleman with a couple of lousy 10/22 banana magazines, I guess. I recall one fellow with a short barreled EBR getting a lot of attention, some from the law, but apparently he was OK. I know of no way to own one of those here legally, but apparently he had a loophole.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:50 am
by rm9792
One question I havent seen answered is, where is the date? None of my mags have dates on them.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:58 am
by packa45
After the ban is in place the date will be required...as of now the mags that were previously banned (94-04ish) are marked law enforcement/military use only...

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:21 am
by StewNTexas
I cannot understand why people are getting excited about having 'high capacity' magazines anyway.

Whe cares?

Sure the New York lawmakers will probably 'revise' their laws so the restrictions no longer apply to LEO's, as they do now. But so what?

The bad guys will no longer be allowed to carry more than 10 rounds either, so this only levels the playing field.

Repeat to yourself "Think like a liberal', 'Think like a liberal', 'Think like a liberal', oh heck, forget it, my head's bull filter will not allow this in. As you were.

Re: Likely high capacity mag ban

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:41 am
by bagman45
"rlol"