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Wodathunkit wrote: I think it's time for some reflection

JALLEN wrote:Where are you going to go? What will you exist on when you get there, if you do?

JALLEN wrote:

Wodathunkit wrote: I think it's time for some reflection

Make sure you get a hat with the shiny side out then.

I'm surprised you guys in Texas don't have this already figured out, between the hurricanes and floods and ice storms, etc it seems like all this would be if not usual at least a normal part of life, like checking anti freeze in your car every Halloween or something. (They still use anti-freeze in cars, don't they? I never have to since it never freezes here. The only ice we see is in the glass.)

Make up a plan, by all means, but be realistic. I have seen some guys make elaborate rucksacks with enough medical supplies to outfit a hospital, food for a month, ammo, money, batteries, radios, documents on thumb drives, water, etc, that weighs more than they do, and they propose to carry this rucksack cross country since they figure roads will be jammed or blocked, nobody will have gasoline, etc. Where are you going to go? What will you exist on when you get there, if you do? How many others have planned to do the same things? Most people aren't in good enough shape to walk from one end of town to the other, even if it is flat and the weather is good. Add hills, bad weather and carrying that enormous rucksack full of stuff, and they won't get even a few miles.

Fleeing by automobile is probably not realistic. From here in the southwest corner of the country, state and urban area, hemmed in by the border and the ocean, there are only two ways out, and several million people will be taking them. I watched the hurricane evacuations a few years ago up towards Dallas. No thanks! Might you be better off staying put, with enough food and water and resources, generators, etc. to stay warm and fed and hydrated, and defended until things sort themselves out?

The Annoyed Man wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

Wodathunkit wrote: I think it's time for some reflection

Make sure you get a hat with the shiny side out then.

I'm surprised you guys in Texas don't have this already figured out, between the hurricanes and floods and ice storms, etc it seems like all this would be if not usual at least a normal part of life, like checking anti freeze in your car every Halloween or something. (They still use anti-freeze in cars, don't they? I never have to since it never freezes here. The only ice we see is in the glass.)

Make up a plan, by all means, but be realistic. I have seen some guys make elaborate rucksacks with enough medical supplies to outfit a hospital, food for a month, ammo, money, batteries, radios, documents on thumb drives, water, etc, that weighs more than they do, and they propose to carry this rucksack cross country since they figure roads will be jammed or blocked, nobody will have gasoline, etc. Where are you going to go? What will you exist on when you get there, if you do? How many others have planned to do the same things? Most people aren't in good enough shape to walk from one end of town to the other, even if it is flat and the weather is good. Add hills, bad weather and carrying that enormous rucksack full of stuff, and they won't get even a few miles.



Fleeing by automobile is probably not realistic. From here in the southwest corner of the country, state and urban area, hemmed in by the border and the ocean, there are only two ways out, and several million people will be taking them. I watched the hurricane evacuations a few years ago up towards Dallas. No thanks! Might you be better off staying put, with enough food and water and resources, generators, etc. to stay warm and fed and hydrated, and defended until things sort themselves out?

That is why our effort has two phases.

Phase 1: bugging in here in Grapevine. See the description of our California earthquake kit, and add a few things—particularly food and water. Even so, we have emergency bugout bags packed.....just in case. I'd prefer to bug in, but if I have to leave, I want to be able to take something with me. Our bugOUT gear is aimed at low-impact camping, and the pack being light enough that we CAN carry it on foot. Each of the two bags is similarly packed, and includes stuff like a wood-gas stove, water filters, compass, etc.

Phase 2: my long term goal is to buy land. I don't want to be a commercial farmer, but I want to be able to raise/grow enough food to meet most of my wife's and my needs. What that looks like exactly, I don't know yet, except that I don't want to live cheek by jowl with my neighbors. I want to have some breathing room. Some of the plans can't be decided until I actually have the land. But even in Phase 2, it is a bugIN plan because I plan to live and put down roots wherever I buy the land. I'm too old and fat to go on the run.