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DC Police Raid Iraq Vet's Home Without Warrant
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:16 am
by Kythas
This guy needs the biggest, baddest lawyer in the country.
http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/ ... me-over-g/
Re: DC Police Raid Iraq Vet's Home Without Warrant
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:14 am
by jmra
I read the entire series related to this case. I no longer consider DC to be part of the United States. It is as foreign to this country as any middle eastern country is.
Re: DC Police Raid Iraq Vet's Home Without Warrant
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:35 am
by mrvmax
It sickens me to see where our country has gone. I am tired of reading stories like that. We have to admit though that he should have registered the firearms or not lived there, but I feel for the guy. I dfinitely do not agree with DC's laws, but I refuse to live in a place like that.
Re: DC Police Raid Iraq Vet's Home Without Warrant
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:14 am
by texanjoker
Somebody needs to point blame at the person that called 911. The police responded to a call that she made, indicating he had a gun and was suicidal. If this was a false statement, then she needs to be prosecuted for filing a false complaint. I would bet the 911 tape is recorded, and will show what was said one way or another. If not, release the tape.
Setting up tactically for a reported armed suicidal man? What did they expect the police to do, just walk up and knock on the door after being told he was sitting with a gun in his lap? Did they do over kill? I wasn't there and don't know. I also don't know their procedures for this type of incident. APD recently changed their mental health call to a 4 officer minimum and that is for just a MHMO call w/o mention of a gun. One could make entry with exigent circumstances on a mental health call if circumstances warranted w/o a warrant. You CANNOT search the house for guns or any other items during that entry. It would be for checking the welfare of the victim only.
Searching w/o a warrant for guns? That is a no no if that happened. The 4th is there for a reason. I wonder if the conversations with the alleged suspect were recorded?
Another good article. Trying to find an update on this case:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/gun ... -iraq-vet/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: DC Police Raid Iraq Vet's Home Without Warrant
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:07 am
by SewTexas
there is a way to bring charges on a person who calls in an anonymous tip to CPS, typically on homeschoolers, that turns out to be false. I believe it has been done now. HSLDA pushed the leg through after a slew of bad incidents in the 90's. I wonder if this can be done in this case? and if not maybe someone needs to push something through?
Re: DC Police Raid Iraq Vet's Home Without Warrant
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:06 am
by Redneck_Buddha
texanjoker wrote:Somebody needs to point blame at the person that called 911. The police responded to a call that she made, indicating he had a gun and was suicidal. If this was a false statement, then she needs to be prosecuted for filing a false complaint. I would bet the 911 tape is recorded, and will show what was said one way or another. If not, release the tape.
Setting up tactically for a reported armed suicidal man? What did they expect the police to do, just walk up and knock on the door after being told he was sitting with a gun in his lap? Did they do over kill? I wasn't there and don't know. I also don't know their procedures for this type of incident. APD recently changed their mental health call to a 4 officer minimum and that is for just a MHMO call w/o mention of a gun. One could make entry with exigent circumstances on a mental health call if circumstances warranted w/o a warrant. You CANNOT search the house for guns or any other items during that entry. It would be for checking the welfare of the victim only.
Searching w/o a warrant for guns? That is a no no if that happened. The 4th is there for a reason. I wonder if the conversations with the alleged suspect were recorded?
Another good article. Trying to find an update on this case:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/gun ... -iraq-vet/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SWAT teaming suicidal individuals seems to be getting more common. This poor kid eventually suffered "assisted suicide".
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/1991783 ... lanta-news" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Edit: And yes, I do realize that the police have their side of this story.