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Teachers as Armed Guards in Michigan...
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:54 pm
by stevie_d_64
I wonder if this could work in Texas???
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Re: Teachers as Armed Guards in Michigan...
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:22 pm
by JJVP
Most important, arming teachers as reserve officers would ensure rapid response in an emergency. And in school shootings, response times matter. At Columbine, law enforcement remained outside the school for three hours before reaching the wounded. At Sandy Hook, there was a 20-minute delay. At Virginia Tech, it took less than ten minutes, but the perpetrator was quicker still. Two of the SWAT-team members who searched Columbine the day of the shooting, Sargeant. A. J. DeAndrea and now-retired Sheriff’s Sargeant Grant Whitus, currently train respondents to assume that in a mass shooting, a person dies every 15 seconds.
When seconds count the police is minutes away.
20 minutes at Sandy Hook??????
Re: Teachers as Armed Guards in Michigan...
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:23 pm
by n5wd
stevie_d_64 wrote:I wonder if this could work in Texas???
It could, assuming that some of the requirements for certifying were modified or not enforced. Specifically, some of the physical agility requirements. The requirements for being licensed as a reserve officer in Texas are almost as stringent as being a full-time officer and for some of us, say, more mature teachers, it might be struggle to meet the requirements.
But if that could be worked out, I don't see why carrying a certification as a reserve peace officer would be inconsistent to my work as a teacher. One of our counselors, for example, was a reserve constable for a long time and it didn't get in the way of his full-time job. And, it would smooth over some of the humps to carrying a concealed weapon in school.
But, I wouldn't call us "armed guards". That sounds like someone who's sitting outside watching the gate. Instead, I'd be inside doing my full-time job and would, if needed, be able to slip into the other role as needed.
Re: Teachers as Armed Guards in Michigan...
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:11 pm
by stevie_d_64
n5wd wrote:stevie_d_64 wrote:I wonder if this could work in Texas???
It could, assuming that some of the requirements for certifying were modified or not enforced. Specifically, some of the physical agility requirements. The requirements for being licensed as a reserve officer in Texas are almost as stringent as being a full-time officer and for some of us, say, more mature teachers, it might be struggle to meet the requirements.
But if that could be worked out, I don't see why carrying a certification as a reserve peace officer would be inconsistent to my work as a teacher. One of our counselors, for example, was a reserve constable for a long time and it didn't get in the way of his full-time job. And, it would smooth over some of the humps to carrying a concealed weapon in school.
But, I wouldn't call us "armed guards". That sounds like someone who's sitting outside watching the gate. Instead, I'd be inside doing my full-time job and would, if needed, be able to slip into the other role as needed.
I agree for some the physical agility portion would be restrictive, and not garner much participation...The purpose I see is to get armed teachers into the mindset, to e able to "slip" (as you state) into the role in a timely manner to be a force against situations like this...You would find that quality in veterans, former police officers turned teachers...There are a lot of people I feel who would jump at the opportunity to participate, and become a credible solution to this issue...What is lacking is courage of the school districts and administrators to actually try something tangible to addrees it...