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Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:25 pm
by FishInTx
Quick and easy for somebody.
We live close enough to walk or bike to the range. Does one need a CHL to transport the weapons to and from the range? Do the weapons have to be unloaded, locked, in a case etc.. if you don't have a CHL?
TIA
Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:36 am
by Beiruty
No chl is needed. Carry your long long rifles as you wish. Legally e Wa you can open carry at the range if allowed by range rules.

Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:49 pm
by RAM4171
Sorry FishInTx, the law states nothing about loaded, unloaded or locked. You can't carry a handgun on or about your person off of property under your control without a CHL unless you are directly enroute to your vehicle, Per PC46.02.
Now as long as you have your CHL you're good to go
I keep this on my computer as a very handy reference, it's in pdf form
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/InternetFo ... CHL-16.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also if you have an Android phone there is an app for that.
I have read the CHL-16 cover to cover a few times over the years, and there is no way that I can remember all of the lwas.

Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:07 pm
by RX8er
IANAL.....
Walking no, but I do believe that Texas treats a bicycle as a vehicle. I think, and again, IANAL, if they are concealed on the bike, not on your person, you would be fine.
Any lawyers have a different view?
Since a cyclist is supposed to ad hear to the same laws as cars and motorcycles just strengthens the point.
Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:09 pm
by ScottDLS
RAM4171 wrote:Sorry FishInTx, the law states nothing about loaded, unloaded or locked. You can't carry a handgun on or about your person off of property under your control without a CHL unless you are directly enroute to your vehicle, Per PC46.02.
Now as long as you have your CHL you're good to go
I keep this on my computer as a very handy reference, it's in pdf form
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/InternetFo ... CHL-16.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also if you have an Android phone there is an app for that.
I have read the CHL-16 cover to cover a few times over the years, and there is no way that I can remember all of the lwas.

I think you could male a strong argument that you CAN...
PC §46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
....
(3) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other
sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is
en route between the premises and the actor's residence, motor vehicle, or watercraft, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;
....
Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:15 pm
by RAM4171
Ah,
I didn't think about the sporting activity.
Good point

Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:33 pm
by G26ster
ScottDLS wrote:
I think you could male a strong argument that you CAN...
PC §46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
....
(3) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is en route between the premises and the actor's residence, motor vehicle, or watercraft, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;
....
According to PC §46.15:
a) I walk from my residence to the gun range - I'm legal.
b) I walk from my residence to the gun shop, pick up my gun, and walk to the gun range - legal, as long as a stop or stops along the way are part of "en route."
c) If stops along the way negate "en route" (the stop at the gun shop ended the original "en route") then - I'm illegal
d) If stops along the way
do not negate "en route" then I can leave my residence in the morning, stop anywhere I choose, as long as I end up at a gun range. If so, I'm legal to carry all day, with no CHL.
Just curious

Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:57 am
by ScottDLS
G26ster wrote:ScottDLS wrote:
I think you could male a strong argument that you CAN...
PC §46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
....
(3) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is en route between the premises and the actor's residence, motor vehicle, or watercraft, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;
....
According to PC §46.15:
a) I walk from my residence to the gun range - I'm legal.
b) I walk from my residence to the gun shop, pick up my gun, and walk to the gun range - legal, as long as a stop or stops along the way are part of "en route."
c) If stops along the way negate "en route" (the stop at the gun shop ended the original "en route") then - I'm illegal
d) If stops along the way
do not negate "en route" then I can leave my residence in the morning, stop anywhere I choose, as long as I end up at a gun range. If so, I'm legal to carry all day, with no CHL.
Just curious

You're OK for all of the above as long as you're TRAVELING....

Re: Walking/biking to range.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:10 pm
by TDDude
FishInTx wrote:Quick and easy for somebody.
We live close enough to walk or bike to the range. Does one need a CHL to transport the weapons to and from the range? Do the weapons have to be unloaded, locked, in a case etc.. if you don't have a CHL?
TIA
Man, just get the CHL. I'm teaching a class in far northwest Houston tomorrow. PM me if you wanna plug in. There is ALWAYS room for one more.
