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Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 391334.php

Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

This is all the more reason your spouse should agree to let you buy a nice new flat panel HD LED TV; they are much lighter and have less chance of killing you if dropped on your head.

Keith B wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 391334.php

Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

This is all the more reason your spouse should agree to let you buy a nice new flat panel HD LED TV; they are much lighter and have less chance of killing you if dropped on your head.

They are so thin now it could be used as a guillotine...

Ericstac wrote:

Keith B wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 391334.php

Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

This is all the more reason your spouse should agree to let you buy a nice new flat panel HD LED TV; they are much lighter and have less chance of killing you if dropped on your head.

They are so thin now it could be used as a guillotine...

Had a customer come into our Home Depot the other day, with bandages on his wrist. He had just finished mounting his flat panel TV on the wall and was bundling the wires, when the thing came loose (I suspect from his description that he was pulling on the wires to get them straight) and the whole assembly came off the wall and landed edge first on his wrist.

He was using "Up to 50 lbs" wall anchors, and since the TV and mount weighed less than that, "They should have held." He was looking for something to repair the holes and that would be secure enough to mount the tv once the repair was made. The "Up to" part comes with conditions that must be met.

My co-worker and I explained how to use the existing holes to insert backer boards into the wall, since he hadn't hit any studs, and suggested moving the TV a few inches one way or the other to allow at least two mounting screws to hit a stud, but he was adamant about the location.

The TV, according to him, actually survived the 4 or 5 foot fall.

I wonder if it will survive the next one.

Come to Home Depot, ask for advice, decide that it's inconvenient, or too hard, or whatever and ignore it, and the Home Depot employees go in the break room and laugh about you.

jimlongley wrote:...He was using "Up to 50 lbs" wall anchors...

That would be 0-50 pounds. When I did my hitch in the AF, we had a saying, "there's always 10% that never get the word." I got fussed at by dear wife when I mounted the flat panel in our bedroom, it was supposed to be about 8" further to the right. Sorry, can't easily move the wall stud.

Back to the story, I noticed that one. Unbelievable.

Cut Sheetrock, insert 3/4 ply nailed to studs mount the tv. Easy.

Really though, most mounts are designed to mount to 16" studs and the tv hangs and can slide a distance either way to help center.

His tv didnt break because it landed on that nice cushiony wrist of his lol

Ericstac wrote:Cut Sheetrock, insert 3/4 ply nailed to studs mount the tv. Easy.

Really though, most mounts are designed to mount to 16" studs and the tv hangs and can slide a distance either way to help center.

His tv didnt break because it landed on that nice cushiony wrist of his lol

Have to point out, he was trying to find the studs by drilling 1/16 in holes in the wall "every couple of inches" and I figure that he might have been just lucky enough to miss by just a little bit on each side of at least one stud, because he said he drilled at least ten holes.

And then there was the lady who brought the wall anchors back because the were no good. A handyman friend of mine actually went to her house to hang the TV for her, and came back to let us know that she had hit a stud dead center and that's why she couldn't get the "EZ Anchors" to go into the wall.

For those who don't know, EZ Anchors are one of the greatest devices known to man, they self drill through sheet rock and then when you drive a screw in, they split and really provide a good anchor, but they are plastic and don't penetrate hard things like studs and water pipes very well.

Used the dedicated grab bar system to ADA a bathroom for the MIL. Test drove the system by hanging 500 lbs of shot off a grab bar in the garage for 3 days.
http://www.wingits.com/WingItsMasterAnchor

jimlongley wrote:

Ericstac wrote:

Keith B wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 391334.php

Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

This is all the more reason your spouse should agree to let you buy a nice new flat panel HD LED TV; they are much lighter and have less chance of killing you if dropped on your head.

They are so thin now it could be used as a guillotine...

Had a customer come into our Home Depot the other day, with bandages on his wrist. He had just finished mounting his flat panel TV on the wall and was bundling the wires, when the thing came loose (I suspect from his description that he was pulling on the wires to get them straight) and the whole assembly came off the wall and landed edge first on his wrist.

He was using "Up to 50 lbs" wall anchors, and since the TV and mount weighed less than that, "They should have held." He was looking for something to repair the holes and that would be secure enough to mount the tv once the repair was made. The "Up to" part comes with conditions that must be met.

My co-worker and I explained how to use the existing holes to insert backer boards into the wall, since he hadn't hit any studs, and suggested moving the TV a few inches one way or the other to allow at least two mounting screws to hit a stud, but he was adamant about the location.

The TV, according to him, actually survived the 4 or 5 foot fall.

I wonder if it will survive the next one.

Come to Home Depot, ask for advice, decide that it's inconvenient, or too hard, or whatever and ignore it, and the Home Depot employees go in the break room and laugh about you.

Wood backing is the only safe way to mount heavy things on walls. I have even seen that pull out. Any kind of drywall anchor, even the butterfly type that rely only on the drywall fail. I have seen a shelf pull out 4 inch diameter holes in the sheetrock.

Progressive failure rules the connection world.

Gravity is a mother. Factor of safety needs to be at least 7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Rege ... y_collapse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://matdl.org/failurecases/Building_ ... mper_Arena" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

philip964 wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

Ericstac wrote:

Keith B wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 391334.php

Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

This is all the more reason your spouse should agree to let you buy a nice new flat panel HD LED TV; they are much lighter and have less chance of killing you if dropped on your head.

They are so thin now it could be used as a guillotine...

Had a customer come into our Home Depot the other day, with bandages on his wrist. He had just finished mounting his flat panel TV on the wall and was bundling the wires, when the thing came loose (I suspect from his description that he was pulling on the wires to get them straight) and the whole assembly came off the wall and landed edge first on his wrist.

He was using "Up to 50 lbs" wall anchors, and since the TV and mount weighed less than that, "They should have held." He was looking for something to repair the holes and that would be secure enough to mount the tv once the repair was made. The "Up to" part comes with conditions that must be met.

My co-worker and I explained how to use the existing holes to insert backer boards into the wall, since he hadn't hit any studs, and suggested moving the TV a few inches one way or the other to allow at least two mounting screws to hit a stud, but he was adamant about the location.

The TV, according to him, actually survived the 4 or 5 foot fall.

I wonder if it will survive the next one.

Come to Home Depot, ask for advice, decide that it's inconvenient, or too hard, or whatever and ignore it, and the Home Depot employees go in the break room and laugh about you.

Wood backing is the only safe way to mount heavy things on walls. I have even seen that pull out. Any kind of drywall anchor, even the butterfly type that rely only on the drywall fail. I have seen a shelf pull out 4 inch diameter holes in the sheetrock.

Progressive failure rules the connection world.

Gravity is a mother. Factor of safety needs to be at least 7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Rege ... y_collapse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://matdl.org/failurecases/Building_ ... mper_Arena" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I agree, and I have even seen where someone tried to yank a telephone off the wall and pulled out a large section of sheetrock with it, those were good anchors applied properly.

An attorney friend of mine "hired" me as an "expert witness" in one of the law suits that resulted from the Hyatt collapse. My testimony was never needed. The reason she wanted me was that shortly after the incident I had some details through my fire department contacts and was able to explain to her, in terms that were understandable to a layman, what had happened. The phone companies had used similar structures for decades and we knew to avoid the poor construction practice that was used in the Hyatt.

jimlongley wrote:

philip964 wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

Ericstac wrote:

Keith B wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 391334.php

Killed her by dropping a TV on her head. Just wouldn't die from the 47 stab wounds.

This is all the more reason your spouse should agree to let you buy a nice new flat panel HD LED TV; they are much lighter and have less chance of killing you if dropped on your head.

They are so thin now it could be used as a guillotine...

Had a customer come into our Home Depot the other day, with bandages on his wrist. He had just finished mounting his flat panel TV on the wall and was bundling the wires, when the thing came loose (I suspect from his description that he was pulling on the wires to get them straight) and the whole assembly came off the wall and landed edge first on his wrist.

He was using "Up to 50 lbs" wall anchors, and since the TV and mount weighed less than that, "They should have held." He was looking for something to repair the holes and that would be secure enough to mount the tv once the repair was made. The "Up to" part comes with conditions that must be met.

My co-worker and I explained how to use the existing holes to insert backer boards into the wall, since he hadn't hit any studs, and suggested moving the TV a few inches one way or the other to allow at least two mounting screws to hit a stud, but he was adamant about the location.

The TV, according to him, actually survived the 4 or 5 foot fall.

I wonder if it will survive the next one.

Come to Home Depot, ask for advice, decide that it's inconvenient, or too hard, or whatever and ignore it, and the Home Depot employees go in the break room and laugh about you.

Wood backing is the only safe way to mount heavy things on walls. I have even seen that pull out. Any kind of drywall anchor, even the butterfly type that rely only on the drywall fail. I have seen a shelf pull out 4 inch diameter holes in the sheetrock.

Progressive failure rules the connection world.

Gravity is a mother. Factor of safety needs to be at least 7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Rege ... y_collapse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://matdl.org/failurecases/Building_ ... mper_Arena" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I agree, and I have even seen where someone tried to yank a telephone off the wall and pulled out a large section of sheetrock with it, those were good anchors applied properly.

An attorney friend of mine "hired" me as an "expert witness" in one of the law suits that resulted from the Hyatt collapse. My testimony was never needed. The reason she wanted me was that shortly after the incident I had some details through my fire department contacts and was able to explain to her, in terms that were understandable to a layman, what had happened. The phone companies had used similar structures for decades and we knew to avoid the poor construction practice that was used in the Hyatt.

I went to school with a young man (at the time) whose initials appeared on the front page of the Kansas City Star approving the steel shop drawings for the Hyatt bridge where the load on the tensile connection was inadvertently doubled.