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The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:20 am
by The Annoyed Man
DailyMail.co.uk
U.S. sees highest poverty spike since the 1960s, leaving 50 million Americans poor as government cuts billions in spending... so does that mean there's no way out?
The number of Americans living in poverty has spiked to levels not seen since the mid 1960s, classing 20 per cent of the country’s children as poor.

It comes at a time when government spending cuts of $85 billion have kicked in after feuding Democrats and Republicans failed to agree on a better plan for addressing the national deficit.

The cuts will directly affect 50 million Americans living below the poverty income line and reduce their chances of finding work and a better life.
The article completely fails to address the economic policies that brought us to this point, and beg Ronald Reagan's famous quote: "Are you better off today?" Now, I am solidly in the libertarian (small "L" because I haven't joined a party) camp these days, but I have some sympathy with those conservatives who have toiled in the boiler rooms of fiscal responsibility, even as the rest of the congressional crew plays "How Great Thou [and I] Art" as the ship goes down.

I am greatly tired of democrats who bemoan "the fate of the poor," while implementing the very policies which made them poor, and then worrying that, when the absolutely INEVITABLE budget axe falls, "the poor" should not suffer along with the rest of us who are paying for that largess. They would rather see ALL of us poor than to either A) change their policies so that fewer poor exist; or B) The other day, another member posted a humorous story about the economics of having a beer after work, and while it was funny, it was also very true, and could have been written by Samuel Clemens or Will Rogers, neither of whom were particularly conservative men.

How far liberalism has strayed from its Classical Liberalism roots, which we call today "libertarianism," to its more current meaning of nanny state statism which destroys everything it touches, and creates nothing.........except more poverty. Mind you, this vapid article which seeks our heart-strings (unsuccessfully, in my case) is posted by the Daily Mail, but it was written by the AP......which yesterday issued a self-contradictory proclamation saying that they were removing the term "illegal alien" from their stylesheet......not because it isn't true, but because it offends illegal aliens.

Re: The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:36 pm
by gthaustex
The article was slanted all the way toward a socialist take on government. They also fail to point out that the "cuts" to all of the funding for programs are not really cuts in nost cases, but a reduction in the rate of growth for those programs.

It all makes my head hurt. :banghead:

Re: The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:45 pm
by Panda
Wow. It used to be that socialism was morally bankrupt. Now they are literally bankrupt too.

Re: The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:20 pm
by K.Mooneyham
The Annoyed Man wrote:DailyMail.co.uk
U.S. sees highest poverty spike since the 1960s, leaving 50 million Americans poor as government cuts billions in spending... so does that mean there's no way out?
The number of Americans living in poverty has spiked to levels not seen since the mid 1960s, classing 20 per cent of the country’s children as poor.

It comes at a time when government spending cuts of $85 billion have kicked in after feuding Democrats and Republicans failed to agree on a better plan for addressing the national deficit.

The cuts will directly affect 50 million Americans living below the poverty income line and reduce their chances of finding work and a better life.
The article completely fails to address the economic policies that brought us to this point, and beg Ronald Reagan's famous quote: "Are you better off today?" Now, I am solidly in the libertarian (small "L" because I haven't joined a party) camp these days, but I have some sympathy with those conservatives who have toiled in the boiler rooms of fiscal responsibility, even as the rest of the congressional crew plays "How Great Thou [and I] Art" as the ship goes down.

I am greatly tired of democrats who bemoan "the fate of the poor," while implementing the very policies which made them poor, and then worrying that, when the absolutely INEVITABLE budget axe falls, "the poor" should not suffer along with the rest of us who are paying for that largess. They would rather see ALL of us poor than to either A) change their policies so that fewer poor exist; or B) The other day, another member posted a humorous story about the economics of having a beer after work, and while it was funny, it was also very true, and could have been written by Samuel Clemens or Will Rogers, neither of whom were particularly conservative men.

How far liberalism has strayed from its Classical Liberalism roots, which we call today "libertarianism," to its more current meaning of nanny state statism which destroys everything it touches, and creates nothing.........except more poverty. Mind you, this vapid article which seeks our heart-strings (unsuccessfully, in my case) is posted by the Daily Mail, but it was written by the AP......which yesterday issued a self-contradictory proclamation saying that they were removing the term "illegal alien" from their stylesheet......not because it isn't true, but because it offends illegal aliens.
Now, TAM, watch what you say about the AP. I stated elsewhere (can't remember the exact thread, something about knife laws) that I felt they are anti-firearm/anti-2A/anti-self-defense, and I got chastised with words to the effect of the AP writes so many articles that they are bound to write a few slanted ones. :roll:

BTW, your analysis of that article is spot on. :thumbs2:

Re: The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:52 pm
by Sidro
Most of the people I know of working age that are on welfare and therefore on the poverty list do not want a job. Therein lies the problem. If they would get off their can and go to work it would help everyone. They want to collect govt money and aid while moaning about how bad they have it. Jobs are out there they may not pay well but they can be found.

Re: The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:25 pm
by Hoosier Daddy
Sidro wrote:Most of the people I know of working age that are on welfare and therefore on the poverty list do not want a job. Therein lies the problem. If they would get off their can and go to work it would help everyone. They want to collect govt money and aid while moaning about how bad they have it. Jobs are out there they may not pay well but they can be found.
I think we need to establish a foreign exchange program. For each illegal alien we give amnesty, we ship someone on welfare to their country.

Re: The beauty of Obamanomics.....(with a leftist slant)

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:13 pm
by MeMelYup
Sidro wrote:Most of the people I know of working age that are on welfare and therefore on the poverty list do not want a job. Therein lies the problem. If they would get off their can and go to work it would help everyone. They want to collect govt money and aid while moaning about how bad they have it. Jobs are out there they may not pay well but they can be found.
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