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So I was driving down the road the other day, and I saw an officer with a vehicle pulled over with multiple occupants.

As what happens often with me, a random scenario came through my head with:

What if the occupants got out, and opened fire on the officer, he is outnumbered and possibly already wounded/down. What do you do in this situation.

Would you stop and try to defend the officer, would you wait until the threat is over, get to the officer and report an officer down while applying first aid, etc?

Just would love to hear what you guys/gals would have to say :)

But what if the officer is an imposter and the car he pulled over was a bunch of detectives going to lunch?

What if they are playing zombie?

Anygunanywhere

Depends, in this instance, am I with or without my CHL combo kit (badge, sash, beret)?

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Makes me remember how badly i need to order the larue trauma kit, it hast the stop bleeding packets you pour in the wound.

I might help if i did not have my son with me. This is the scenario where you would want the Constant carry carbine.

un0fficial wrote:So I was driving down the road the other day, and I saw an officer with a vehicle pulled over with multiple occupants.

As what happens often with me, a random scenario came through my head with:

What if the occupants got out, and opened fire on the officer, he is outnumbered and possibly already wounded/down. What do you do in this situation.

Would you stop and try to defend the officer, would you wait until the threat is over, get to the officer and report an officer down while applying first aid, etc?

Just would love to hear what you guys/gals would have to say :)

I understand that you're trying to develop your personal plan book for "what do I do if," which is both necessary and commendable for anyone who is preparing to defend himself and his family. However, discussing theoretical incidents in a forum becomes unproductive pretty quickly because there are an infinite number of "what if" scenarios like this that could be posed, and the full fact pattern that is critical to making decisions is never as complete as it is in a real incident. This leads to lots of clarifying questions which can only be answered in the abstract and can throw the decision making either way. That's not what happens in real life. You only get one fact pattern.

In my experience, a much more productive way to approach this effort is to study the laws governing self defense, read the writings of experts in the field (e.g. Mas Ayoob, Clint Smith, Col. Dave Grossman, etc.), take training classes in both legal and tactical defense (e.g. one of Mr. Cotton's excellent Use of Deadly Force classes), study and discuss real life incidents posted here, in books where collections of incidents are analyzed, and in the news where real judgments were made and real outcomes can be examined, and participate in tactical shooting sports.

Call me selfish, but my number one priority is getting home safely to my baby girl and wife.

Excaliber wrote:
I understand that you're trying to develop your personal plan book for "what do I do if," which is both necessary and commendable for anyone who is preparing to defend himself and his family. However, discussing theoretical incidents in a forum becomes unproductive pretty quickly because there are an infinite number of "what if" scenarios like this that could be posed, and the full fact pattern that is critical to making decisions is never as complete as it is in a real incident. This leads to lots of clarifying questions which can only be answered in the abstract and can throw the decision making either way. That's not what happens in real life. You only get one fact pattern.

In my experience, a much more productive way to approach this effort is to study the laws governing self defense, read the writings of experts in the field (e.g. Mas Ayoob, Clint Smith, Col. Dave Grossman, etc.), take training classes in both legal and tactical defense (e.g. one of Mr. Cotton's excellent Use of Deadly Force classes), study and discuss real life incidents posted here, in books where collections of incidents are analyzed, and in the news where real judgments were made and real outcomes can be examined, and participate in tactical shooting sports.

This is what I meant to say.



Anygunanywhere

anygunanywhere wrote:

Excaliber wrote:
I understand that you're trying to develop your personal plan book for "what do I do if," which is both necessary and commendable for anyone who is preparing to defend himself and his family. However, discussing theoretical incidents in a forum becomes unproductive pretty quickly because there are an infinite number of "what if" scenarios like this that could be posed, and the full fact pattern that is critical to making decisions is never as complete as it is in a real incident. This leads to lots of clarifying questions which can only be answered in the abstract and can throw the decision making either way. That's not what happens in real life. You only get one fact pattern.

In my experience, a much more productive way to approach this effort is to study the laws governing self defense, read the writings of experts in the field (e.g. Mas Ayoob, Clint Smith, Col. Dave Grossman, etc.), take training classes in both legal and tactical defense (e.g. one of Mr. Cotton's excellent Use of Deadly Force classes), study and discuss real life incidents posted here, in books where collections of incidents are analyzed, and in the news where real judgments were made and real outcomes can be examined, and participate in tactical shooting sports.

This is what I meant to say.



Anygunanywhere

un0fficial wrote:Just would love to hear what you guys/gals would have to say :)

It depends on the jurisdiction. In some, I would keep driving and mind my own business, knowing the Gun Control Fairy will be along any minute to save the day.