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The Waco siege (sometimes called the "Waco massacre"[4]) was a siege of a compound belonging to the religious group Branch Davidians by the United States federal and Texas state law enforcement and military between February 28 and April 19, 1993.[5]

The Branch Davidians, a Protestant Christian sect led by David Koresh, lived at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Elk, Texas,[6][7] nine miles (14 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. The group was suspected of weapons violations and a search and arrest warrant was obtained.

The incident began when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the standoff lasting 51 days. Eventually, the FBI launched an assault and initiated a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out. During the attack, a fire engulfed Mount Carmel Center and 76 men, women and children,[8][9] including David Koresh, died.

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JALLEN wrote:This is what can happen when you entrust the power of government to a pot-smoking, draft dodging, womanizing, uncommonly good liar. These guys always have an agenda that is far more important than simple good governing.

I confess that I have become a Coolidgean, the kind of man under whose leadership such a thing would be completely unthinkable, and a lot more besides.

There is something about these collectivists that just cannot abide people going about their business in simple freedom.

bdickens wrote:...That we found out exactly what the purpose of the Second Amendment is.

IANAL wrote:It's interesting taking to people who lived in the area and thought the religion's members were strange but that's as far as it went. Texas CPS investigated some allegations but found no evidence that would support prosecution. Local law enforcement also didn't seem especially concerned about illegal activities at the church before the siege.

The allegations of criminal activity by Koresh and others in the church seem to come from the group who killed them. As far as I can find, no proof of those allegations has ever been released. I don't know what to think about Koresh and his church members, but I'm not the kind to blindly trust what killers say about the people they killed, especially without independently verified evidence.

C-dub wrote:Wow! 20 years. It doesn't seem that long ago.

I tend to give the government a little more leniency on many things, but then I remember this was during the Clinton-Reno gun-grabber reign and Koresh thought he was Jesus or something like that. A couple of nut jobs butting heads.

C-dub wrote:Wow! 20 years. It doesn't seem that long ago.

I tend to give the government a little more leniency on many things, but then I remember this was during the Clinton-Reno gun-grabber reign and Koresh thought he was Jesus or something like that. A couple of nut jobs butting heads.