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Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:02 am
by kg5ie
In Georgetown I noticed that the cardboard targets were from "Lighthouse for the Blind" here in FTW. I was interested so I copied down the name and the number off of their targets. As soon as I got back I called the number. They claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. I suspect either a) they only sell them to the DPS or b) I just didn't get the right person to talk to on the phone.

Anyway, the purpose of the post..........where are you buying your cardboard targets? Cost? Are they high to ship?


Thanks,

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:07 am
by Keith B
kg5ie wrote:In Georgetown I noticed that the cardboard targets were from "Lighthouse for the Blind" here in FTW. I was interested so I copied down the name and the number off of their targets. As soon as I got back I called the number. They claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. I suspect either a) they only sell them to the DPS or b) I just didn't get the right person to talk to on the phone.

Anyway, the purpose of the post..........where are you buying your cardboard targets? Cost? Are they high to ship?


Thanks,
Here is a link to the info http://lighthousefw.org/index.php?page= ... &Itemid=53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:08 am
by sjfcontrol
kg5ie wrote:In Georgetown I noticed that the cardboard targets were from "Lighthouse for the Blind" here in FTW. I was interested to I copied down the name and the number off of their targets. As soon as I got back I called the number. They claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. I suspect either a) they only sell them to the DPS or b) I just didn't get the right person to talk to on the phone.

Anyway, the purpose of the post..........where are you buying your cardboard targets? Cost? Are they high to ship?


Thanks,
I got my targets from them.
http://www.lighthousefw.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
rsellers@lighthousefw.org
817 332-3341

Yes, they supply DPS's targets. As of 8/1/2012 Cardboard targets were 25 @ $0.84 each, paper were 100 @ $0.47 each

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:37 pm
by kg5ie
Keith B wrote:
kg5ie wrote:In Georgetown I noticed that the cardboard targets were from "Lighthouse for the Blind" here in FTW. I was interested so I copied down the name and the number off of their targets. As soon as I got back I called the number. They claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. I suspect either a) they only sell them to the DPS or b) I just didn't get the right person to talk to on the phone.

Anyway, the purpose of the post..........where are you buying your cardboard targets? Cost? Are they high to ship?


Thanks,
Here is a link to the info http://lighthousefw.org/index.php?page= ... &Itemid=53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you both for the info. Just got off the phone with their store. Wow, I am pleasantly surprised with the cost...and because it relatively local (23 mi) I can avoid the shipping cost. :tiphat:

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:48 pm
by sjfcontrol
kg5ie wrote:
Keith B wrote:
kg5ie wrote:In Georgetown I noticed that the cardboard targets were from "Lighthouse for the Blind" here in FTW. I was interested so I copied down the name and the number off of their targets. As soon as I got back I called the number. They claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. I suspect either a) they only sell them to the DPS or b) I just didn't get the right person to talk to on the phone.

Anyway, the purpose of the post..........where are you buying your cardboard targets? Cost? Are they high to ship?


Thanks,
Here is a link to the info http://lighthousefw.org/index.php?page= ... &Itemid=53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you both for the info. Just got off the phone with their store. Wow, I am pleasantly surprised with the cost...and because it relatively local (23 mi) I can avoid the shipping cost. :tiphat:
How about posting their current prices?

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:12 pm
by 234sportsman
I ordered some a few weeks ago. The cardboard B27 price was approx. $70 for 50...shipping included in the state of Texas. I love em!

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:32 pm
by sjfcontrol
234sportsman wrote:I ordered some a few weeks ago. The cardboard B27 price was approx. $70 for 50...shipping included in the state of Texas. I love em!
Shipping of the cardboard version is expansive, they're heavy. Your price is 1.40 each where mine (without shipping) was 0.84 each ( but a 9 months ago.

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:53 pm
by Jumping Frog
Here is a nice list of target manufacturers licensed to sell NRA targets (the B27 CHL standard target is an NRA target).

http://compete.nra.org/nra-licensed-tar ... urers.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:59 pm
by RX8er
Jumping Frog wrote:Here is a nice list of target manufacturers licensed to sell NRA targets (the B27 CHL standard target is an NRA target).

http://compete.nra.org/nra-licensed-tar ... urers.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, can anyone print an official B27 target or only if you are approved and licensed by the NRA? Or, another way to say it, can anyone grab the official NRA B27 specifications and print up targets and call them a B27 and use them for official CHL certification? And, how is this regulated that a non NRA licensed B27 target is legit and in specifications?

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:59 pm
by sjfcontrol
Jumping Frog wrote:Here is a nice list of target manufacturers licensed to sell NRA targets (the B27 CHL standard target is an NRA target).

http://compete.nra.org/nra-licensed-tar ... urers.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is?

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:18 am
by Jumping Frog
RX8er wrote:So, can anyone print an official B27 target or only if you are approved and licensed by the NRA?
It is copyrighted.

An individual printing their own is not going to hit anyone's radar screen, and may possibly fall under fair use doctrine. But a business printing them without a license could certainly fall into a deep mess -- commercial copyright infringement has some pretty serious penalties.

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:14 am
by Keith B
Jumping Frog wrote:
RX8er wrote:So, can anyone print an official B27 target or only if you are approved and licensed by the NRA?
It is copyrighted.

An individual printing their own is not going to hit anyone's radar screen, and may possibly fall under fair use doctrine. But a business printing them without a license could certainly fall into a deep mess -- commercial copyright infringement has some pretty serious penalties.
I don't believe the B-27 is copyrighted. What the link says is
The NRA has licensed a number of companies to print Official NRA Targets. These Target Manufacturers have agreed to follow NRA standards for Official Targets.
The NRA wants to ensure the targets are the correct size, and contrast density for competition. I believe anyone can legally print and sell a B-27 target, it just may not meet the guidelines for NRA.

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:28 am
by RX8er
Jumping Frog wrote:
RX8er wrote:So, can anyone print an official B27 target or only if you are approved and licensed by the NRA?
It is copyrighted.

An individual printing their own is not going to hit anyone's radar screen, and may possibly fall under fair use doctrine. But a business printing them without a license could certainly fall into a deep mess -- commercial copyright infringement has some pretty serious penalties.
Do you have one that is? I have been unable to locate any one of the NRA approved vendors as having a copyright for a B27 target, or the NRA itself as having a copyright that could license a printer. http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebre ... PAGE=First" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The reason I asked is that one of the major printers of the B27 that sells to several of the big box stores is not listed by the NRA. I would find it very hard to believe that one of the majors would violate a copyright.

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:55 pm
by Crossfire
Have you guys even looked into the cost of a wide format printer, capable of printing these targets?

Sure makes .84 per target sound reasonable.

Re: Cardboard Targets Cost and Source ????

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:10 pm
by Keith B
There is a guy that sells paper silhouettes at the gun shows. They have a printing business and this is a sideline of the regular business. I think even at a fair quantity purchased his price was around $0.50 each. Don't remember the style for sure, but they may or may not be exact size required for NRA.