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In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:57 pm
by Beiruty
This one is for Mr. "Buy a Shotgun, Buy a Shotgun" ... 4 armed robbers with at least 1 with "assault-rifle"!
Update by Scott Goldstein at 4:39 p.m.: In an interview inside the store this afternoon, manager Joe Cho said when he spotted the armed robbers from inside his office, he emerged with a handgun and shot at them.
They fired back before fleeing, he said, and he immediately called 911 to report the attempted robbery and shooting.
Cho waited 20 minutes for police officers to get to the store where he's worked for 17 years, he said. When they didn't show up, he locked up and went home for the night.
Asked if he was surprised or upset by the Dallas police response to his call for help, he said, "upset, definitely."
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Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!1
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:11 pm
by jmra
Can't wait to see what the chief has to say about that one
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!1
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:15 pm
by carlson1
I can't imagine the excuse they have. Failing to respond quicker to an armed robbery has to have a major flaw in communication.
You know it was not long ago that the dispatch botched a 911 call for family violence and a lady was killed. She was not found until the next day.
Last year the fire department did not respond to house fire and the house was completely destroyed. The counsel called for an investigation.
This will be one to watch.
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:22 pm
by mojo84
So much for the current definition of "first responders".
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:10 am
by JP171
mojo84 wrote:So much for the current definition of "first responders".
unuhuh Mojo, we aint the culprit most first responders are dispatched on a priority basis and we don't get to decide the priority so don't hammer on us, hammer on the dispatch people who decide according to guide lines from the city or county
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:26 am
by Beiruty
JP171 wrote:mojo84 wrote:So much for the current definition of "first responders".
unuhuh Mojo, we aint the culprit most first responders are dispatched on a priority basis and we don't get to decide the priority so don't hammer on us, hammer on the dispatch people who decide according to guide lines from the city or county
In Dallas, Police and EMT are overworked least to say. Couple years back, I was involved in my "totaled" Acura RL. I asked for Police help to reconstruct the accident, the call was just after sunset on a Saturday, Help showed up after midnight

Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:38 am
by jmra
This is why I only go north of I-20 if I absolutely have to.
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:00 am
by chasfm11
Another fine example of what happens when the city has enough money to build hotels and not enough to hire police officers.
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:30 am
by knotquiteawake
JP171 wrote:mojo84 wrote:So much for the current definition of "first responders".
unuhuh Mojo, we aint the culprit most first responders are dispatched on a priority basis and we don't get to decide the priority so don't hammer on us, hammer on the dispatch people who decide according to guide lines from the city or county
I have heard, from multiple sources, some of them fellow law enforcement officers (who were former DPD officers), that Dallas Police Officers are not individually assigned to calls. Calls are simply "put out there" and officers "choose" what calls to take and in what order. This has been part of the cause of the very long response times for a lot of the low to mid priority calls. It sounds really inefficient and allows the officer to ignore calls he/she doesn't want to take. If someone here works for DPD and knows this to not be true or a misrepresentation please let me know how it works. I am curious because I heard it from a few people (who don't know each other).
In this case I wonder if dispatch got the priority wrong because the store owner said the armed robbers were gone, so it was no longer "in progress" and therefore kicked down a notch.
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:43 am
by anygunanywhere
Unfortunately, many individuals will never understand that ultimately they are responsible for their safety and cannot rely on someone else.
When you place your safety in someone else's hands you are already at a disadvantage.
Anygunanywhere
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:59 am
by RoyGBiv
911 call placed at 11:PM.
DPD arrived at 12:15 AM.
Is DPD THAT short staffed?
On the plus side, it seems they caught one of the robbers at 11:07.
Turns out, officers had actually been working a related call just down the street, in the 5800 block of Bernal, where, at 11:07 p.m. Sunday, police had been dispatched on a shooting call. There, police say, they found a man with gunshot wounds to the left side of his body. But there was no blood at the scene. Police quickly deduced the man had been "transported to the location and then dumped out of a vehicle." Officers became decidedly suspicious when he refused to tell police where he'd been shot or by whom, and when they could tell he was trying to hide some clothes - a black sweatshirt, for instance, and a black "beanie" - under a car.
While they were questioning that man, officers got another call about two black males seen trying to dispose of "some bloody clothes" at a nearby house. Police would eventually discover a black sweater, a black-and-green bandana and a backpack. But the men were gone.
Meanwhile, back at Pepe's officers, screened the surveillance-cam footage of the attempted robbery. And, sure enough, says the report, the man with the gunshot wounds "was the first person in the store and was the person with the assault rifle." And one of the other men in the video was seen wearing the clothes that had been ditched at the house up Bernal.
Re: In dallas, why call 911?!!
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:11 am
by n5wd
knotquiteawake wrote:I have heard, from multiple sources, some of them fellow law enforcement officers (who were former DPD officers), that Dallas Police Officers are not individually assigned to calls. Calls are simply "put out there" and officers "choose" what calls to take and in what order. This has been part of the cause of the very long response times for a lot of the low to mid priority calls. It sounds really inefficient and allows the officer to ignore calls he/she doesn't want to take. If someone here works for DPD and knows this to not be true or a misrepresentation please let me know how it works. I am curious because I heard it from a few people (who don't know each other).
Here are a couple of links where you can find out for yourself - streaming audio of DPD's radio:
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/10861/web DPD NW, North Central, traffic & detectives
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/5318/web DPD Central, and NE
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/5319/web DPD SE, SW and South Central