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Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:09 pm
by Rayden
Would you shoot? I don't think I would, but can't denied that I'm glad someone did.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/CHL-hold ... 65581.html
by KHOU.com staff
khou.com
Posted on May 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Updated today at 12:12 PM
HOUSTON -– Police said one of the suspects who tried to hold up an ACE Cash
Express in north Houston was in the hospital Monday after a bystander opened fire.
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scene empty-handed.
Police said as the suspects were leaving, a man whose wife works at the store saw the
crime going down and chased after the men.
One of the suspects was struck in the arm and was expected to survive. The other
suspect got away on foot.
Police said the shooter had a Concealed Handgun License. Officers questioned him at
the scene and then gave him back his weapon.
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Thanks
LT
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:10 pm
by Rayden
Also trying to find the link from CNN where they talked about some serious problems with Cell phone robberies where the offenders just walk up behind you and snatch your cell phone from your hand and ran ...
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:24 pm
by jmra
I guess this answers the question about whether or not you can shoot at someone while they are fleeing the scene. I doubt the police would have given him back his weapon if there were any concerns about the shooting.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:29 pm
by C-dub
When I was first being held up, maybe/probably, but as they were fleeing empty handed, no.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:32 pm
by jmra
C-dub wrote:When I was first being held up, maybe/probably, but as they were fleeing empty handed, no.

I would observe as best I could in order to be a good witness.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:44 pm
by Trele6
Don't know all the facts obviously, but from just reading the article it seems like he might have be a little aggressive....but the cop did give his gun back so maybe there is more to the story.. either way the bad guys got busted and that is good news.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:07 pm
by Mel
C-dub wrote:When I was first being held up, maybe/probably, but as they were fleeing empty handed, no.
That brings up the question; "Did he know that they were fleeing
empty-handed?"
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:14 pm
by jmra
Mel wrote:C-dub wrote:When I was first being held up, maybe/probably, but as they were fleeing empty handed, no.
That brings up the question; "Did he know that they were fleeing
empty-handed?"
I don't think it would matter to me if he had a bag full of money. I still wouldn't take the shot. Now if he was dragging a girl by the hair and I was close enough for a clean shot, or he was shooting at people as he fled - different story.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:18 pm
by jayinsat
I don't think I would take the shot either. However, it wasn't my wife in that store getting robbed. I'm glad to know that the law, and the LEO's (in this case) was on his side.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:20 pm
by jmra
jayinsat wrote:I don't think I would take the shot either. However, it wasn't my wife in that store getting robbed. I'm glad to know that the law, and the LEO's (in this case) was on his side.

very encouraged by the fact that they returned his weapon. In fact, I was very surprised they did. I will be watching this case for any future developments.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:15 pm
by bulinm
Would I shoot ? NO.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:41 pm
by Shinesintx
Not my money, it's the banks...so no.
I did see a guy get shot by a cop after an attempted robbery. I think he had a knife. The cop came into the family practice clinic asking if there was a doctor. I think my giggling irritated him.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:05 am
by gemini
Granted, lots of unknowns to this story. And, Would You Shoot vs Legal To Shoot ?
I think the LEO's returned his weapon because he was "legal" to shoot, and did so.
The gentleman was waiting to make sure his wife got to work safely (I think that's
cool). I think it reasonable he believed the BG's had just done a robbery and he was
in fresh pursuit (PC9.42 / 9.43). These things happen really fast, and I won't second
guess the CHL's actions. I'm glad he and his wife (and other employees) were not harmed.
This whole robbery scene could have turned bad real quick. Good on Mr CHL.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:00 am
by android
The video said they were armed, dressed in black and wearing bandana over their faces, so "empty-handed" was with respect to not getting any cash, I don't think it meant that they were unarmed or not a threat.
Re: Would you shoot?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:07 am
by texanjoker
Mel wrote:C-dub wrote:When I was first being held up, maybe/probably, but as they were fleeing empty handed, no.
That brings up the question; "Did he know that they were fleeing
empty-handed?"
Another thing to bring up was the CHL holder at risk of any harm had he just let them run off? True you can shoot a fleeing dangerous felon in many cases with supporting case law, but is it always the right thing to do? Each must decide that for themselves.