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Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:44 pm
by puma guy
Did the 83rd Legislature do anything to remedy the lack of a penalty that was inadvertently omitted/eliminated last session for failure to display front license plates?

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:03 pm
by RottenApple
puma guy wrote:Did the 83rd Legislature do anything to remedy the lack of a penalty that was inadvertently omitted/eliminated last session for failure to display front license plates?
Nope. HB657 died in committee. This would have removed the requirement and DPS would only issue a rear plate. So I looks like both are still required, but no penalty for a missing front plate.

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:35 am
by Rex B
I don't intend to put a front plate on my Shelby.

So what happens if I get a ticket for that?

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:53 am
by daniel2002p
My car has not had a front plate since new. I cannot get myself to drill holes into a shiny new bumper. I'll deal with the consequences.

--Daniel

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:59 am
by Rex B
daniel2002p wrote:My car has not had a front plate since new. I cannot get myself to drill holes into a shiny new bumper. I'll deal with the consequences.
Nor has mine, though there are some alternative mounts that are acceptable.
But I did get a written warning from a DPS trooper last month (in another car).

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:34 am
by Beiruty
The front license should be gone. The cop can read the one in the back of a car. Acutally, if the driver is pulled over, there is no need for the license plate number. He would get the DL and insurance paper, pronto.

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:40 am
by Ericstac
I've been pulled over and questioned about no front plate but never given a ticket.

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:34 am
by AEA
Beiruty wrote:The front license should be gone. The cop can read the one in the back of a car. Acutally, if the driver is pulled over, there is no need for the license plate number. He would get the DL and insurance paper, pronto.
You're missing the whole point for the Front Plate..........
It is primarily used for red light cameras which brings in the revenue! :mad5

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:27 pm
by RX8er
AEA wrote:
Beiruty wrote:The front license should be gone. The cop can read the one in the back of a car. Acutally, if the driver is pulled over, there is no need for the license plate number. He would get the DL and insurance paper, pronto.
You're missing the whole point for the Front Plate..........
It is primarily used for red light cameras which brings in the revenue! :mad5
Yes, and it is a favorite place for the cop to aim his laser speed gun giving me 1 second more to slow down.

I have never had one on a car and with new cars, I specifically tell them to not install it. I've had plenty of warnings about not having one but never a ticket. Who knows what citation could be issued?

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:35 pm
by E.Marquez
RX8er wrote:Who knows what citation could be issued?
The citation is not the issue, the law is still on the books.

It's the penalty which is in question and who will adjudicate the charge should the person cited decide to contest and ask for a day in court.

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:52 pm
by tbrown
E.Marquez wrote:
RX8er wrote:Who knows what citation could be issued?
The citation is not the issue, the law is still on the books.

It's the penalty which is in question and who will adjudicate the charge should the person cited decide to contest and ask for a day in court.
Maybe it's a test. If someone doesn't know better, they'll pay what the ticket says, no matter if they're legally obligated to. :lol:

Other states seem to do fine with one plate. Even in Texas, it doesn't seem to cause the sky to fall when a motorcycle drives by displaying only the single plate issued for it.

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:57 pm
by daniel2002p
I keep my front plate in the glove box with four suction cups I purchased at Ace just in case I get pulled over and get a talking to about it I can just suction it to the windshield. So far have not had to resort to that.

--Daniel

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:17 pm
by Wes
I've been questioned about it several times and received a ticket for it once a long time ago. At that time, I had to take a picture of it installed to get it dismissed and paid te $20-25 fee. I don't have one on now and just don't worry about it. No way I'm drilling my bumper to install one.

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:17 pm
by E.Marquez
daniel2002p wrote:I keep my front plate in the glove box with four suction cups I purchased at Ace just in case I get pulled over and get a talking to about it I can just suction it to the windshield. So far have not had to resort to that.

--Daniel
Just so you know.. Windshield location does not meet the requirements of the law.according to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. ...If the trooper or other LEO has/will be citing you because he knows the law and appropriate court rulings ( the LEOs I know,, understand this as they use it as PC for a stop)...your plan will not get you passed it.
This is a snippet
"The law seems simple enough. Nevertheless, the past two years of case law updates have given readers interesting court
opinions debating the requirement that a license plate be displayed at the front and rear of the vehicle. The Austin Court
of Appeals held that Section 502.404 does not require that the front license plate be displayed on the front bumper, just
that the plate be visible from the front of the vehicle.4
In contrast, the Amarillo Court of Appeals held that the front license
plate must be displayed on the foremost area of the car.5
The Court of Criminal Appeals settled the disagreement in Spence
v. State, 325 S.W.3d 646 (2010) when it agreed with the Amarillo Court of Appeals and held that the statute requires the
license plate to be on the foremost area or beginning of the car, most commonly the front bumper.6
Judge Meyers, in a
dissent joined by Judge Hervey, posited that if the front of the vehicle means the front bumper, then the rear of the vehicle
should mean the back bumper; however, most often, rear plates are mounted on the vehicle’s trunk and not the actual
bumper. Judge Meyers opined that “[t]he only thing about this statute that is clear is that it is not well written.”

Re: Front License Plate Display Penalty ?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:13 pm
by gigag04
DPS doesn't issue plates.