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POTUS tubes sex assault cases "unlawful command inflluence"
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:53 pm
by ELB
Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week.
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On Wednesday and Thursday, Fulton approved the pretrial defense motions, which used as evidence comments that Obama made about sexual assault at a May 7 news conference.
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‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable — prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.”
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[Navy Judge Commander Fulton said,] “A member of the public would draw the connection between the ‘dishonorable discharge’ required by the President and a punitive discharge approved by the convening authority.
“The strain on the system created by asking a convening authority to disregard [Obama’s] statement in this environment would be too much to sustain public confidence.”
It's not like his legal advisors couldn't see this coming:
Last year, Marine Corps defendants in more than 60 sexual assault cases filed unlawful command influence claims following comments by Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos, according to a May 9 McClatchy Tribune news report.
In one speech, Amos declared that 80 percent of sexual assault claims were legitimate, according to the report. Judges in nearly all of the 60 disputed cases found the appearance of unlawful command influence, according to the McClatchy report.
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I wonder what Nidal Hasan's lawyer will pull out his hat now?
Re: POTUS tubes sex assault cases "unlawful command inflluen
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:29 am
by JP171
it boils down to this either he exercised this undue command influence knowing what would happen or his majesty needs to learn to keep his mouth shut, the former being probable and the latter being impossible. He has caused the whole system to be broken and he likes it that way so that he can exercise the control that he believes is not only his right but his duty as supreme ruler and lordship to we serfs to control us as we don't know what is good for us nor the country.
Re: POTUS tubes sex assault cases "unlawful command inflluen
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:24 pm
by tbrown
He did the same thing with the Zimmerman railroad IIRC.
Re: POTUS tubes sex assault cases "unlawful command inflluen
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:27 am
by VMI77
That judge has to go, when The One pronounces guilt, sentence should be carried out immediately.
Re: POTUS tubes sex assault cases "unlawful command inflluen
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:12 pm
by suthdj
ELB wrote:Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week.
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On Wednesday and Thursday, Fulton approved the pretrial defense motions, which used as evidence comments that Obama made about sexual assault at a May 7 news conference.
...
‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable — prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.”
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[Navy Judge Commander Fulton said,] “A member of the public would draw the connection between the ‘dishonorable discharge’ required by the President and a punitive discharge approved by the convening authority.
“The strain on the system created by asking a convening authority to disregard [Obama’s] statement in this environment would be too much to sustain public confidence.”
It's not like his legal advisors couldn't see this coming:
Last year, Marine Corps defendants in more than 60 sexual assault cases filed unlawful command influence claims following comments by Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos, according to a May 9 McClatchy Tribune news report.
In one speech, Amos declared that 80 percent of sexual assault claims were legitimate, according to the report. Judges in nearly all of the 60 disputed cases found the appearance of unlawful command influence, according to the McClatchy report.
http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex- ... e-1.225974" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I wonder what Nidal Hasan's lawyer will pull out his hat now?
A little off topic but I think the safest place for Nidal Hasan is in jail. If he is released I think justice would be served properly.