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Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:33 am
by DH44
Can someone explain to me why we can get licensed to carry a firearm- with stringent requirements and thorough vetting- but we can't carry an automatic knife?
Doesn't make much sense IMO.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:40 am
by The Annoyed Man
DH44 wrote:Can someone explain to me why we can get licensed to carry a firearm- with stringent requirements and thorough vetting- but we can't carry an automatic knife?
Doesn't make much sense IMO.
What do you mean by "automatic knife?" There are some kinds of knives which we cannot get a license for, and which we cannot carry either. We CAN carry some assisted opening knives if the blades are under the maximum allowable length.
If these were guns, it would be like being told that we cannot under
any circumstances carry semiautomatic pistols in caliber over 9mm or 7 rounds capacity. Do you think that is better than our current gun rights?
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:53 am
by SQLGeek
As of Sept. 1, it will be legal under state law to carry an automatic knife. This doesn't make it legal under local laws such as in San Antonio.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:59 am
by E.Marquez
SQLGeek wrote:As of Sept. 1, it will be legal under state law to carry an automatic knife. This doesn't make it legal under local laws such as in San Antonio.
By chance do you remember which bill this is?
Did not stay up on the knife bills this session

Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:03 am
by SQLGeek
Which part isn't correct?
It is HB 1862
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 01862F.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:11 am
by TheCytochromeC
Has this been signed by the governor yet?
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:14 am
by E.Marquez
Not what was intended to post..
I was saying I did not know... no idea what my fingers typed...

Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:17 am
by E.Marquez
TheCytochromeC wrote:
Has this been signed by the governor yet?
Yes on 14 June
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... ill=HB1862" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks
SQLGeek for the heads up.... guess I don't have to keep those knifes in the safe all the time when not at work now..
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:18 am
by SQLGeek
I do hate when that happens.

Glad I could pass along some information!
The real question is do I want to plunk down the coin for one or stick with an assisted opener which are darn near automatic?
Also, I don't know San Antonio law enough to know if they ban switchblades. I had thought they did but I can't find anything saying that they do. At any rate, local preemption is still allowed so tread carefully.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:22 am
by E.Marquez
SQLGeek wrote:I do hate when that happens.

Glad I could pass along some information!
The real question is do I want to plunk down the coin for one or stick with an assisted opener which are darn near automatic?
Also,
I don't know San Antonio law enough to know if they ban switchblades. I had thought they did but I can't find anything saying that they do. At any rate, local preemption is still allowed so tread carefully.
Let me return the favor
http://library.municode.com/HTML/11508/ ... PRGEEXPEVI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sec. 21-17. Certain knives prohibited generally; exceptions; penalty for violation.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5½) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife.
(b)
The above prohibition set forth in subsection (a) shall not be applicable to a person carrying such a knife:
(1)
In the actual discharge of his duties as a peace officer, a member of the armed forces or national guard, or a guard employed by a penal institution;
(2)
On his own premises or premises under his control;
(3)
Traveling;
(4)
Engaged in lawful hunting, fishing or other lawful sporting activity; or
(5)
Using such a knife in connection with a lawful occupation, during such utilization.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:37 am
by TheCytochromeC
E.Marquez wrote:TheCytochromeC wrote:
Has this been signed by the governor yet?
Yes on 14 June
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... ill=HB1862" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks
SQLGeek for the heads up.... guess I don't have to keep those knifes in the safe all the time when not at work now..
I was looking elsewhere. I thought it was taking a while! I'm excited now.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:39 am
by cb1000rider
E.Marquez wrote:
Sec. 21-17. Certain knives prohibited generally; exceptions; penalty for violation.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5½) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife.
Am I reading that right, that I can't carry any knife under 5.5" if it can be locked into place?
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:44 am
by The Annoyed Man
cb1000rider wrote:E.Marquez wrote:
Sec. 21-17. Certain knives prohibited generally; exceptions; penalty for violation.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5½) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife.
Am I reading that right, that I can't carry any knife under 5.5" if it can be locked into place?
I had the same thought. That would illegalize ALL of my pocket knives.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:50 am
by E.Marquez
cb1000rider wrote:E.Marquez wrote:
Sec. 21-17. Certain knives prohibited generally; exceptions; penalty for violation.
(a)
It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5½) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife.
Am I reading that right, that I can't carry any knife under 5.5" if it can be locked into place?
Thats the way I read it as well
That makes my every day pocket carry C.R.K.T 1" long blade P.E.C.K knife

illegal in that city, and most every other knife I own as well.
Re: Automatic Knife Carry- Why Not?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:45 pm
by McKnife
Here is what I'll be carrying.
and yes, I already bought it.
http://davesknifeworld.com/emersonautoc ... dge-1.aspx