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Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:47 am
by Frankie
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/educat ... 649676.php
I dislike Wal-Mart for a lot of reasons. The is just cementing my conviction to not spend any of my money with them. In my opinion, the city leaders and the zoning board have really messed this one up and are also to blame.

Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:03 am
by RottenApple
Frankie wrote:http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/educat ... 649676.php
I dislike Wal-Mart for a lot of reasons. The is just cementing my conviction to not spend any of my money with them. In my opinion, the city leaders and the zoning board have really messed this one up and are also to blame.

I'm not a fan of Walmart either and avoid going there if at all possible, but I fail to see the issue here. If the residents don't want Walmart to build there, then they either need to convince the landowner not to sell to Walmart or they need to buy the land themselves. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
And how have the city leaders & zoning board messed this up?
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:04 am
by JALLEN
I have never understood the vitriol against Walmart. It is quite irrational, frankly. The company would not be the world's largest retailer if it were not pleasing customers, lots of them, offering the goods and services they want to buy at attractive prices. Operating efficiently, competing, is a requirement for success in commerce, and nobody does that better than Walmart.
The only part of it I understand is the opposition of union members who can't stand to see non-union businesses, or governments, prosper. Not that I agree with it, but I understand their opposition. OTOH, nobody has ever seen Walmart employees marched in to work with guns at their heads. Customers either, for that matter!
Perhaps some don't like the customers, some of whom have attracted ridicule.
Attracting crime is a joke. It's not like they were turning it into Indian gaming or a race track or a brothel, for crying out loud.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:14 am
by paperchunker

We shop at Walmart regularly. I get items for our home, clothes for my back, and food for the table at reasonable prices. And the show is really entertaining

Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:51 am
by MeMelYup
The problems I see with it being across the street from a school is; traffic congestion, loitering by school kids and loitering causing a higher rate of theft due to boredom.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:02 pm
by ScooterSissy
Just remember folks, when you're at Wal-Mart, privately enjoying the "People of Wal-Mart" show playing in your head ... you're one of those "people" :)
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:07 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
Frankie wrote:http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/educat ... 649676.php
I dislike Wal-Mart for a lot of reasons. The is just cementing my conviction to not spend any of my money with them. In my opinion, the city leaders and the zoning board have really messed this one up and are also to blame.

Since Walmart sells almost nothing made in the USA any more (Sam is turning over in his grave) I care less than nothing for Walmart.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:18 pm
by JJVP
JALLEN wrote:I have never understood the vitriol against Walmart. It is quite irrational, frankly. The company would not be the world's largest retailer if it were not pleasing customers, lots of them, offering the goods and services they want to buy at attractive prices. Operating efficiently, competing, is a requirement for success in commerce, and nobody does that better than Walmart.
The only part of it I understand is the opposition of union members who can't stand to see non-union businesses, or governments, prosper. Not that I agree with it, but I understand their opposition. OTOH, nobody has ever seen Walmart employees marched in to work with guns at their heads. Customers either, for that matter!
Perhaps some don't like the customers, some of whom have attracted ridicule.
Attracting crime is a joke. It's not like they were turning it into Indian gaming or a race track or a brothel, for crying out loud.
I shop at WalMart at least 2-3 times a week. Can find 99% of my shopping needs there. Don't understand the visceral hate some people have against them.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:31 pm
by chuck j
Everyone has seen it but it's still good .
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Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:46 pm
by Panda
RottenApple wrote:
I'm not a fan of Walmart either and avoid going there if at all possible, but I fail to see the issue here. If the residents don't want Walmart to build there, then they either need to convince the landowner not to sell to Walmart or they need to buy the land themselves. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
That would require them to spend their own money to get what they want. It would require them to grow up instead of crying until the nanny state comforts them.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:52 pm
by texanjoker
paperchunker wrote:
We shop at Walmart regularly. I get items for our home, clothes for my back, and food for the table at reasonable prices. And the show is really entertaining

The only part about Walmart I never liked was having to work a patrol beat with a walmart. Their loss prevention is very active and deos a good job catching the shoplifters which was a pain. They would regularly call with a shoplifter in custody that kicked their behinds making it a robbery..all over a $5 tshirt.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:14 pm
by ELB
texanjoker wrote: ...The only part about Walmart I never liked was having to work a patrol beat with a walmart. Their loss prevention is very active and deos a good job catching the shoplifters which was a pain. They would regularly call with a shoplifter in custody that kicked their behinds making it a robbery..all over a $5 tshirt.
That's interesting. Our local Walmart doesn't seem to do anything to catch shoplifters except turn the video over the the cops. The local police FB page regularly has video of people walking out the door with stuff. Not under their shirts either. Couple guys walked out with a trash can (also stolen) with $700 worth of shampoo in it. Another guy walked out with a big screen TV.
RottenApple wrote: .... If the residents don't want Walmart to build there, then they either need to convince the landowner not to sell to Walmart or they need to buy the land themselves. Seems like a no-brainer to me...

Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:35 pm
by texanjoker
ELB wrote:texanjoker wrote: ...The only part about Walmart I never liked was having to work a patrol beat with a walmart. Their loss prevention is very active and deos a good job catching the shoplifters which was a pain. They would regularly call with a shoplifter in custody that kicked their behinds making it a robbery..all over a $5 tshirt.
That's interesting. Our local Walmart doesn't seem to do anything to catch shoplifters except turn the video over the the cops. The local police FB page regularly has video of people walking out the door with stuff. Not under their shirts either. Couple guys walked out with a trash can (also stolen) with $700 worth of shampoo in it. Another guy walked out with a big screen TV.
RottenApple wrote: .... If the residents don't want Walmart to build there, then they either need to convince the landowner not to sell to Walmart or they need to buy the land themselves. Seems like a no-brainer to me...

I'll bet they like that! Here in my city the cops are there are the time. An APD officer was shot and killed last year over a shop lifter at a walmart.
Re: Cibolo residents: 'Move Wal-Mart'
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:32 pm
by SewTexas
yes, Andy, definitely
And Frankie, I'll simply put a few things out there....I go to church across the street from the lot in question, so I have a right to an opinion so to speak...
1. I'm not particularly thrilled with their choice in location, to be honest, I'm fairly confused with it. it's out of the way, and across the street from a school, highly unusual for them.
2. people are ignoring the fact that WM and others often own land for years, then sell it without doing a thing with it. this land would be a good investment for them.
3. they have promised to widen several roads leading to that land, do you realize how expensive that will be? yeh, see #2.
4. those of you who live in Cibolo allowed this to happen, no one else. Sitting back and not paying attention to anything that happens in a growing town that has more than doubled in size in just a few (relatively) years...growth has to be managed, and to do that, citizens have to be involved, that only happens when people vote and attend at least a few of your city council meetings...heck, I've read the mayor's fb page and most of your citizens didn't even know she wasn't paid! Many didn't even know her name until this happened.
5. I really don't think it will happen, I hope not, getting to church during construction will be a nightmare, but it might.
(for the record, I live in Schertz, I know my mayor's name and I personally know several of our city council folks.)