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Never bring a knife to a gun fight.

Three men try to rob a motorcyclist at knifepoint got a big surprise in Colorado.

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Three men who appeared between 19 and 20 years old pulled up behind him in a black Honda Accord. Two of the men got out of the car and demanded the motorcyclist's money. One of the men was armed with a knife, Kramer said.

The motorcyclist didn't comply with their demands.

Instead, he punched the knife-wielding man and then pulled out a handgun, which he was lawfully carrying, Kramer said.

The suspects ran back to the car and sped away, Kramer said.

No arrests have been made, and the investigation is ongoing, he said.

They're lucky he didn't complete the sequence. I've shot stages in IDPA with that exact scenario and I probably would have ended with 4 trigger presses...at least!

RPBrown wrote:Never bring a knife to a gun fight.

Three men try to rob a motorcyclist at knifepoint got a big surprise in Colorado.

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I wonder if they sped off so quickly in order to get clean undies.

RoyGBiv wrote:

RPBrown wrote:Never bring a knife to a gun fight.

Three men try to rob a motorcyclist at knifepoint got a big surprise in Colorado.

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Thats what happens when your brain goes faster that your fingers can type. These old fingers forget what the brain said to type.

I've always said that thieves are cowards and would like to think most would run once looking down the barrel. I've seen a few opinions here that some would never pull until it's time to shoot which i agree with to an extent, although i believe it's situational. just my thoughts but I would think (assuming there is no cover or escape) knife vs gun - pull it and let them make the next move as the biker did, but gun vs gun - don't be the first one to make the second move

Just me, but I always bring a knife.

At bad-breath distance, a knife can beat a gun...if you know how to use it.

Skiprr wrote:Just me, but I always bring a knife.

At bad-breath distance, a knife can beat a gun...if you know how to use it.

As do I and have been well trained in using it. Because of my training, I'd rather have the gun in a knife fight. Even if the opponent is unskilled in knife fighting, you will most certainly be cut or stabbed no matter your skill level in a knife fight. The best case scenario would be to prevent the attacker from getting close enough to use the knife before you stop him. That would be 15 ft minimum depending on your draw time/skills. Any closer than that and you will probably be cut/stabbed even if you draw and fire before your attacker is neutralized.

The blade is a brutal weapon and is best stopped before it gets near you.

Realities of knife attacks:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=21Mc9IxpYRM[/youtube]

jayinsat wrote:

Skiprr wrote:Just me, but I always bring a knife.

At bad-breath distance, a knife can beat a gun...if you know how to use it.

As do I and have been well trained in using it. Because of my training, I'd rather have the gun in a knife fight. Even if the opponent is unskilled in knife fighting, you will most certainly be cut or stabbed no matter your skill level in a knife fight. The best case scenario would be to prevent the attacker from getting close enough to use the knife before you stop him. That would be 15 ft minimum depending on your draw time/skills. Any closer than that and you will probably be cut/stabbed even if you draw and fire before your attacker is neutralized.

The blade is a brutal weapon and is best stopped before it gets near you.

Everything I've read says in the time it takes a gun carrier to recognize the threat and ready the firearm for a shot an assailant can cover at least 20 feet.
Somewhere there is a video showing an illustration of this where an actor pulls a rubber knife and moves in on a woman carrying a training gun. The woman is not allowed to reach for her weapon until she perceives a threat. In every trial she is stabbed. Only in cases beyond 20 ft is she able to even get off a simulated shot. And of course in these trials she knows there is going to be an attacker.

I guess the real question is this, "Which can you reach and ready for action quicker, your gun or your knife?" Perhaps many of us should be rethinking the type of knife we carry and the method in which we carry it.

Three words: square range mentality

This subject always reminds me of this

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mur-c5IiWJI[/youtube]

I guess the real question is this, "Which can you reach and ready for action quicker, your gun or your knife?" Perhaps many of us should be rethinking the type of knife we carry and the method in which we carry it.

Gun. I unholster and squeeze rapidly.

bayouhazard wrote:Three words: square range mentality

Inquiring minds want to know. Whats that?

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

bayouhazard wrote:Three words: square range mentality

Inquiring minds want to know. Whats that?

It pretty much refers to people who only train standing in one spot, on an "x", firing at a stationary target on a literal square range. They falsely believe that their tight shot groups will save them in a dynamic situation when lead is coming back at them and the attacker is moving.

Dynamic training emphasizes moving, cover and shooting from irregular positions that more simulate real life. Example: check out this IDPA match
*shameless plug to get you to watch my youtube video again*

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=cvbD1jNaF7I[/youtube]