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Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:02 am
by sjfcontrol
Merritt Landry, a 33-year-old “white caucasian” shot the victim, a 14-year-old black boy, in the head. A single spent cartridge case was recovered at the scene, indicating that a semi-automatic weapon was used and suggesting that a single shot was fired. The hour of the shooting was approximately 2:00AM, on Friday, July 26, 2013. As of this writing the victim is reported to remain alive, in critical condition at a local hospital.
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Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:39 am
by philip964
Homeowner was arrested. Shot intruder in tall fenced backyard. It was 1:30 in the morning. He ordered the boy to freeze, but the boy turned and put his hand to his hip. Dog alerted owner to presence of intruder on property.
Since no crime had been committed other than trespassing. Was it a justified shooting in Texas, since it was at night? Or in Texas would it solely depend on whether the homeowner was reasonably in fear of his life?
I'm thinking I like Caucasoid better than "White Caucasian". Is there now other kinds of Caucasian, so that it needs a white in front of it. Like "Black Caucasian" for Obama.
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:14 am
by The Annoyed Man
philip964 wrote:Homeowner was arrested. Shot intruder in tall fenced backyard. It was 1:30 in the morning. He ordered the boy to freeze, but the boy turned and put his hand to his hip. Dog alerted owner to presence of intruder on property.
Since no crime had been committed other than trespassing. Was it a justified shooting in Texas, since it was at night? Or in Texas would it solely depend on whether the homeowner was reasonably in fear of his life?
I'm thinking I like Caucasoid better than "White Caucasian". Is there now other kinds of Caucasian, so that it needs a white in front of it. Like "Black Caucasian" for Obama.
Only one kind of "white caucasian," but now that the media jumped both feet first into the "white hispanic" pool in their coverage of Zimmerman, we now have to be subdivided into different kinds of "white." And since we are taught that the "white man" is the source of all evil, dividing and conquering whites is called for. Nobody is just plain "American" in these days of hyphenation. One thing is for sure if the current trends continue is that each and every one of us, regardless of genetics or color, is soon going to be an ex-American because of the national disintegration.
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:50 am
by suthdj
There was a black female comedian who had this down pat.
White-Mexican is Whexicn
White-Asian is Whasian
White-Black is Whack
Black-Mexican is Blackexian
Black-Asian is Blasian
etc.....
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:23 pm
by gringo pistolero
philip964 wrote:Homeowner was arrested. Shot intruder in tall fenced backyard. It was 1:30 in the morning. He ordered the boy to freeze, but the boy turned and put his hand to his hip. Dog alerted owner to presence of intruder on property.
Since no crime had been committed other than trespassing. Was it a justified shooting in Texas, since it was at night? Or in Texas would it solely depend on whether the homeowner was reasonably in fear of his life?
There's a good argument it would be burglary in Texas and therefore the shooting was justified. Here's why. A fence around a house is a "structure appurtenant to" that house. In Texas, that makes the area enclosed by the fence part of the habitation. Unauthorized entry into a habitation is burglary if the offender intends to commit any felony, theft, or assault. So it comes down to why the criminal entered the habitation without consent in the middle of the night.
It's not a slam dunk defense, because some people might believe QX's story that "the innocent child" was one of Santa's helpers and was there to leave Christmas gifts.

Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:44 pm
by brhalltx
gringo pistolero wrote:
There's a good argument it would be burglary in Texas and therefore the shooting was justified. Here's why. A fence around a house is a "structure appurtenant to" that house. In Texas, that makes the area enclosed by the fence part of the habitation. Unauthorized entry into a habitation is burglary if the offender intends to commit any felony, theft, or assault. So it comes down to why the criminal entered the habitation without consent in the middle of the night.
Interesting; I wonder, if it had been in Texas, if "criminal mischief in the night" would apply.
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:55 pm
by jmra
During my 30+ years in New Orleans I can't tell you many times I've heard LEO suggest or outright say, "if they are on your doorstep and you shoot'em drag them into the house. It's a lot easier on you and less paperwork for us."
Of course these statements were made during one of the more corrupt eras of New Orleans history.
I also remember many Neighborhood Watch meetings where the only question the inhabitants wanted an answer for from the LEO was "When can I shoot'em?"
Will be interesting to see how this works out.
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:43 pm
by texanjoker
gringo pistolero wrote:philip964 wrote:Homeowner was arrested. Shot intruder in tall fenced backyard. It was 1:30 in the morning. He ordered the boy to freeze, but the boy turned and put his hand to his hip. Dog alerted owner to presence of intruder on property.
Since no crime had been committed other than trespassing. Was it a justified shooting in Texas, since it was at night? Or in Texas would it solely depend on whether the homeowner was reasonably in fear of his life?
There's a good argument it would be burglary in Texas and therefore the shooting was justified. Here's why. A fence around a house is a "structure appurtenant to" that house. In Texas, that makes the area enclosed by the fence part of the habitation. Unauthorized entry into a habitation is burglary if the offender intends to commit any felony, theft, or assault. So it comes down to why the criminal entered the habitation without consent in the middle of the night.
It's not a slam dunk defense, because some people might believe QX's story that "the innocent child" was one of Santa's helpers and was there to leave Christmas gifts.

I'd say this theoretical defense is pushing it big time.
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:31 pm
by RottenApple
suthdj wrote:There was a black female comedian who had this down pat.
White-Mexican is Whexicn
White-Asian is Whasian
White-Black is Whack
Black-Mexican is Blackexian
Black-Asian is Blasian
etc.....
I'm a TEXAN-American!

Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:43 pm
by pancho
Soy Tejano
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:59 pm
by sjfcontrol
RottenApple wrote:suthdj wrote:There was a black female comedian who had this down pat.
White-Mexican is Whexicn
White-Asian is Whasian
White-Black is Whack
Black-Mexican is Blackexian
Black-Asian is Blasian
etc.....
I'm a TEXAN-American!

Texican...
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:02 pm
by jmra
sjfcontrol wrote:RottenApple wrote:suthdj wrote:There was a black female comedian who had this down pat.
White-Mexican is Whexicn
White-Asian is Whasian
White-Black is Whack
Black-Mexican is Blackexian
Black-Asian is Blasian
etc.....
I'm a TEXAN-American!

Texican...
If another Dem gets elected after Obama, I may be fine with just "Texan".
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:31 pm
by RottenApple
jmra wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:RottenApple wrote:suthdj wrote:There was a black female comedian who had this down pat.
White-Mexican is Whexicn
White-Asian is Whasian
White-Black is Whack
Black-Mexican is Blackexian
Black-Asian is Blasian
etc.....
I'm a TEXAN-American!

Texican...
If another Dem gets elected after Obama, I may be fine with just "Texan".
Works for me.
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:07 am
by Vol Texan
jmra wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:RottenApple wrote:suthdj wrote:There was a black female comedian who had this down pat.
White-Mexican is Whexicn
White-Asian is Whasian
White-Black is Whack
Black-Mexican is Blackexian
Black-Asian is Blasian
etc.....
I'm a TEXAN-American!

Texican...
If another Dem gets elected after Obama, I may be fine with just "Texan".
I'm sure many of us have seen the short version of the quote, but here's a more complete one from President Theodore Roosevelt:
Teddy Roosevelt wrote: There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism... a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts "native" before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
For an American citizen to vote as a German-American, an Irish-American, or an English-American, is to be a traitor to American institutions; and those hyphenated Americans who terrorize American politicians by threats of the foreign vote are engaged in treason to the American Republic.[1]
It saddens me to to no end that the liberals have progressed so far in their destruction of our society that even some conservatives allow this travesty of language into their own speech pattern. I resist it whenever possible, but I guess if I had to play ball and accept it, I'd choose, "Armed-American" as my hyphenated version of my self (or "Armed-Texan", as the case may be).
Re: Zimmerman Redux -- Louisiana
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:20 am
by Cedar Park Dad
sjfcontrol wrote:Merritt Landry, a 33-year-old “white caucasian” shot the victim, a 14-year-old black boy, in the head. A single spent
I have a part Cauacasian Mountain Dog. We shaved him this year and he's very pale. Does that count?
