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Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:53 pm
by CHLLady
We went to the range today. My gun kept jamming. Hubby and I could not figure out why. He suspects it was me because it only happened to him 2x versus ME at least 3x per magazine. It even dented the casing, when the slide got caught on top of another bullet.

The range master suspects I am not keeping the gun down, as it kicks up, so the round is not chambering properly. Hubby noticed the slide was not fully forward.

I am shooting my Ruger .22 lr with CCI .22 lr 40 grain.

I shot about 20 rounds using my .32 Taurus (my carry) with no problems. I shot the Ruger recently with only a few jams using Champion brand ammo. I'm very discouraged. :waiting:

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:03 pm
by Abraham
My Browning Bull Barrel Buckmark .22 caliber semi-auto was something of a jam-o-matic initially.

After putting two hundred fifty or so rounds through it, it's now almost flawless.

I've probably shot it over two thousand times now, with my Granddaughters help, and I don't recall the last time it malfunctioned.

Also, it's does have a preference for some brand of ammo and distinctly doesn't care for others...

Oh, I say flawless, but if non-stop shoot two hundred rounds or so it will get cranky because by then it definitely needs cleaning.

Apparently, rim fire ammo is fairly dirty.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:09 pm
by Teamless
What actual .22?
Some .22's will only work right with CCI ammo, or other higher cost/quality ammo.
I know the Sig Mosquito and Walther P22 both need CCI (or other high quality ammo) to prevent your exact situation.

If you do have the P22, there are 2 fixes for it.
You can youtube it and see how an (should be) easy mod fixes the issue
The other is get the extended barrel for it, and it creates more back pressure on the cheaper ammo and works quite nicely.

If it is not a temperamental gun, then....
Have you tried various types of .22 ammo, or just 1 brand?
Could be the ammo doesn't have enough powder to kick the breach back fully

Could it need cleaned? could be overly dirty and wont kick the breach back fully, or may not be ejecting the casing with enough "pop"

as its a .22, there should be no kick, but if you have a habit of 'jerking' up on the gun when you pull the trigger, you could be stove-piping the gun with your movement.

If the gun is clean and if you are not jerking it, try different ammo, maybe a more expensive ammo, like CCI

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:10 pm
by jedwil
CHLLady wrote:We went to the range today. My gun kept jamming. Hubby and I could not figure out why. He suspects it was me because it only happened to him 2x versus ME at least 3x per magazine. It even dented the casing, when the slide got caught on top of another bullet.

The range master suspects I am not keeping the gun down, as it kicks up, so the round is not chambering properly. Hubby noticed the slide was not fully forward.

I am shooting my Ruger .22 lr with CCI .22 lr 40 grain.

I shot about 20 rounds using my .32 Taurus (my carry) with no problems. I shot the Ruger recently with only a few jams using Champion brand ammo. I'm very discouraged. :waiting:
Did you try different magazines and ammo?

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:15 pm
by Sport Coach
Hope to help: my SIG Mosquito is very finicky with ammo. Thunderbolt works almost 100%, Federal about 75% (very frustrating) and others vary including the CCI mini mag that is supposed to run the best. It also absolutely requires a very firm grip. Problems with various ammo include stovepipes, failure to feed, failure to extract. I clean that gun every time I shoot it and have cleaned and lubed the magazine which seems to have made a slight but not significant difference.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:34 pm
by Beiruty
Try different ammo brand.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:45 pm
by Weg
Beiruty wrote:Try different ammo brand.

Second that... My Ruger Mark II will not cycle CCI Mini-mags. Works great with Remington Golden bullets, that is what I shoot.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:56 pm
by nyj
yep, I agree with the points on the ammo. Some .22's are just finicky guns with certain types of ammo.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:02 pm
by jmra
My ruger SR22 loves the cheap stuff. If you shoot a lot, find a gun that will shoot the cheap stuff. It will save you a fortune in the long run.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:32 pm
by CHLLady
I'll try my best to answer all of your questions.

It's a fairly new gun. I've run at least 200 rounds through it.
I used 2 of the new magazines that came with the gun, both had issues.
Gun was freshly cleaned, they're always cleaned after every use.

I did notice the ammo was very greasy, left a lot on my fingers when reloading the mag. I did notice that in each loaded mag. 2 bullets were kicked out, not fully lined up and seated uniformally. I had never seen that before. My .32 magazines never do that.

Stove-piping, now that is something I'm going to have to research. I need to solve this issue ASAP. It will not help my confidence to keep jamming my gun, if it is my fault. I will definitely take different ammo next time.

Thank you all for your suggestions!

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:49 pm
by Teamless
CHLLady wrote:I'll try my best to answer all of your questions
What gun make/model is it?

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:50 pm
by Excaliber
Another thing to check is to make sure that the gun is lubricated with a good lube (frog lube, militec, etc.) at all the points recommended by the manufacturer.

Guns that depend on the wimpy recoil impulse from .22 ammo don't have much energy margin they can afford to lose, and extra friction in the action can contribute to the problems you're seeing.

With that being said, if cleaning and lubrication are good to go, the next thing I would try would be to get 50 round boxes of 5 or 6 different types of ammo and see if the problem happens with some and not with others, as some members have suggested.

I'd give it 70 / 30 that's where the problem is.

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:56 pm
by CHLLady
Teamless wrote:
CHLLady wrote:I'll try my best to answer all of your questions
What gun make/model is it?

It's a Ruger 22 LR


I will try different ammo and see if that helps!

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:09 pm
by EEllis
CHLLady wrote:
Teamless wrote:
CHLLady wrote:I'll try my best to answer all of your questions
What gun make/model is it?

It's a Ruger 22 LR

Ruger makes three types of 22lr autos. the 22/45, the SR22, and the Mark III. Each gun has it's own idiosyncrasies which is why people are asking what gun it is.

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22/45

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SR22

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Mark III

Re: Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:25 pm
by Teamless
My guess (lets see how good I am LOL) is it is the SR22.
I guess that as it is about the same size as the Walther P22, and if it has the same recoil issues with different ammo, it would cause a lot of stove pipes without the right ammo.

Also, I have the Mark III 22/45 and It eats everything

And the Mark II has a long barrel, so it should also create enough back pressure to allow the proper ejection and reload.