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Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:59 am
by texanjoker
The officer did a great job! Some may get upset by the amount of rounds he fired, but one fires until the threat is stopped. The only thing I would fault if anything is not reloading after firing his weapon, but he may have and I just didn't see it. This brought back a few memories when they immediately separated the leo. They don't let you talk to anybody and it makes you feel like you did something wrong, which is not the case at all.
In this video, Officer Aaron Burnette of the University of Akron (OH) PD encounters a sixty-four year old man on a traffic stop. During the course of the stop, the [abbreviated expletive deleted] gave a false name and social security number to the officer. Officer Burnette orders the [abbreviated expletive deleted] out of the vehicle. As the [abbreviated expletive deleted] begins to open the door, he says, "I hate to have to do all this," as he produces a pellet gun made to look like a .45. Officer Burnette openes fire, fatally wounding the suspect.
http://youtu.be/_UaEBFJOlgY

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:01 am
by Pawpaw
Fixed it for you.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_UaEBFJOlgY[/youtube]

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:07 am
by texanjoker
Pawpaw wrote:Fixed it for you.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_UaEBFJOlgY[/youtube]

I had fixed it. Can you check the original post to make sure it works for you?

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:12 am
by mojo84
I agree about reloading. Surprised he didn't after firing that many shots. Impressive how quick he responded when he saw the guy's weapon.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:17 am
by texanjoker
mojo84 wrote:I agree about reloading. Surprised he didn't after firing that many shots. Impressive how quick he responded when he saw the guy's weapon.

That is where a LEO training kicks into play with muscle memory taking over. They hammer those scenarios into you in the academy and later in advanced training.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:34 am
by BStacks
Good grief. Try that as a "regular" citizen.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:43 am
by texanjoker
BStacks wrote:Good grief. Try that as a "regular" citizen.

Yeah it is not advisable for "regular" citizens to be making traffic stops :nono: :smilelol5:

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:52 am
by mojo84
Citizen's arrest, citizen's arrest!

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:05 am
by Pawpaw
texanjoker wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Fixed it for you.

I had fixed it. Can you check the original post to make sure it works for you?
When I saw it, I could see the youtube tags around the full URL. I just deleted the "www." and the "&=youtube" from your link so it would embed. I thought that was what you were trying to do.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:25 am
by 92f-fan
texanjoker wrote:
I had fixed it. Can you check the original post to make sure it works for you?
first post has only video link not video embedded

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:49 am
by GlockDude26
wow that looked intense.... the only thing I heard was him saying "I hate to have to do all this" and after hearing that and seeing any type of weapon i believe i'd do the same thing.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:00 pm
by VMI77
texanjoker wrote:
BStacks wrote:Good grief. Try that as a "regular" citizen.

Yeah it is not advisable for "regular" citizens to be making traffic stops :nono: :smilelol5:
How disingenuous of you. You know exactly what he meant.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:36 pm
by texanjoker
VMI77 wrote:
texanjoker wrote:
BStacks wrote:Good grief. Try that as a "regular" citizen.

Yeah it is not advisable for "regular" citizens to be making traffic stops :nono: :smilelol5:
How disingenuous of you. You know exactly what he meant.

Since leo's make traffic stops and regular citizens do not, I simply replied with some humor. :smilelol5:

As I have stated in other threads and in here on the OP, there is no magic number of rounds allowed. One fires until the threat is stopped. We read that some disagree with that as their right. For all we know the first 8 rounds missed. You can also see how fast that went down.

I personally know a leo that was shot in the hand. His first 10-12 rounds missed. He was then able to steady his aim, while nursing a gunshot to his hand, and stop the threat with the last 3 rounds. To witnesses, if there were any, they would think the leo was executing the guy when in fact he was firing at the armed suspect until the threat was stopped.

I have also seen people go to jail because they emptied their gun, the suspect was down, then they reloaded and walked over dumping another magazine into the body. That is obviously a no no.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:19 pm
by E.Marquez
VMI77 wrote:
texanjoker wrote:
BStacks wrote:Good grief. Try that as a "regular" citizen.

Yeah it is not advisable for "regular" citizens to be making traffic stops :nono: :smilelol5:
How disingenuous of you. You know exactly what he meant.
And yet is was an accurate reply.made in jest .. in reference to implied troll to elicit an emotional response.

Deadly force, is , well deadly.. and a perceived threat is engaged with deadly force until no longer perceived as a threat.

Anyone carrying a weapon under the pretense of using it, might want to come to grips with that, or choose to leave it in the safe. Lest someone take that unused gun away from said unrealistic person ... and use it ON them.

Re: Body camera view of leo shooting

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:51 pm
by carlson1
I believe I would have reloaded also.

I have been involved in one officer shooting, but I did not have to pull my trigger. I do believe I would have reloaded. Stress kicks in and I would imagine it would be pretty easy to empty your weapon as fast as this shooting took place.