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Treating Pepper Spray

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:45 am
by NguyenVanDon
I seemingly can't find any links to treating pepper sprayed. I tried to google it, but all I get is people selling pepper spray.

Does anyone here knows the right procedure of treating a pepper spray?

Re: Treating Pepper Spray

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:48 am
by txinvestigator
NguyenVanDon wrote:I seemingly can't find any links to treating pepper sprayed. I tried to google it, but all I get is people selling pepper spray.

Does anyone here knows the right procedure of treating a pepper spray?
Decontamination is best done with flowing water splashed over the area and time.

DO NOT RUB.

You can also use these: http://www.defensedevices.com/suddecwip.html

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:06 pm
by pbandjelly
I've found running, screaming, with arms flailing seems to be the MO for most people who get "sprayed." :lol: :smilelol5: :rolll

From everything I've read (on most cans, or other types of dispensors), you just have to run water over yo' self, and wait'er out.

Question: Have you been sprayed, Nguyen, or are you going to be sprayed?

Re: Treating Pepper Spray

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:43 pm
by flintknapper
txinvestigator wrote:
NguyenVanDon wrote:I seemingly can't find any links to treating pepper sprayed. I tried to google it, but all I get is people selling pepper spray.

Does anyone here knows the right procedure of treating a pepper spray?
Decontamination is best done with flowing water splashed over the area and time.

DO NOT RUB.

You can also use these: http://www.defensedevices.com/suddecwip.html




Amen, to "do not rub"!


Also, if the eyes have been involved....it helps to strobe/blink them to hasten decontamination.

OC is no fun!

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:59 pm
by Greybeard
Have 5-gallon bucket of clean cold water handy. Put head in bucket, open eyes and move head around to flush out eyes. Repeat as necessary.

Repeat on what others said about not rubbing. "Dawn" dishwashing soap is most effective poor-boy method to decontaminate skin.

AVOID letting OC-contaminated rinse water run down into waist band or whiteytighties!

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:05 pm
by Glockamolie
Running water and Johnson & Johnson "no more tears" baby shampoo. If you get it in your hair, you'll get a second dose when you take a shower. As stated, don't let it run down below your waistline. :lol:

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:43 pm
by stevie_d_64
AVOID letting OC-contaminated rinse water run down into waist band or whiteytighties!
As stated, don't let it run down below your waistline.
:chldancing

What yer tryin' to tell us is that you could qualify to be dancing with the stars??? Is that it???

;-)

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:24 pm
by SC1903A3
Here is treatment straight from the OC Instructors manual:

OLEORESIN CAPSICUM AEROSOL CONTROL SYSTEM

Post Use Care and Handling

When a subject has been sprayed with OC, it is not advisable to establish or maintain control with a neck restraint. If the OC has affected the mucous membranes in the nose and throat they will be swollen and the application of a neck restraint could result in further closing of the air passageway.

Once a subject who has been sprayed with OC is handcuffed, you should provide care for the subject. While no medical treatment should be required to eliminate the effects, you should take certain steps to relieve the subject's discomfort.

A. If the subject is within a closed area that has been contaminated, move the subject outside or to a place where there is fresh air.

B. Assure the subject that the effects of the OC spray ate temporary, and the discomfort will disappear in a short time.

C. Assist the subject as he flushes his face with clean, cold water. lf one is available use a hose, if not, use a pail of water and a wet towel until the subject obtains relief. Because water is not readily available, the officers' vehicles should be equipped with capped bottles of water or bottles of saline solution, a product that has been reported to be very effective in relieving the effects of oleoresin capsicum.


D. People with respiratory disorders may have a more extreme reaction when exposed to OC. lf the subject does not appear to be responding within the expected time, or appear to be having a severe reaction, summon medical assistance immediately Each agency should establish its own post care medical policy.

E. Wash your hands as soon as possible after using OC and avoid touching your eyes and mouth until you have done so.

F. Any use of OC should be documented on your agency's Use of Force Report.

G. Some subjects who are brought to the detention facility may still be affected by the OC. lf so, tell the detention facility officers how much time has elapsed since control of the subject was established and let them continue applying water as necessary. If the subject complains about upper body discomfort from the OC spray, the DFO may consider issuing him/her a paper shirt.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:33 pm
by BrassMonkey
I found a very very long time ago that water can and usually increase the effect and spread coverage of the chemical. Including into the nasal passages and mouth.

We were trained to place a detainee in front of an air conditioner vent on high for 10 minutes minimum undel the affects began to dissapate.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:57 pm
by NguyenVanDon
Me and a group of friends are trying to persuade another friend in the group to get sprayed with pepper spray as a live test. The pot is growing fast up to $150+. So far, it's not a go yet. I think if more money is added into the pot, he will consider on doing it. Here's the rules we came up with:

- 2 multiple burst of Police Magnum OC-17% Pepper Spray.
- Must let Pepper Spray soak in for 30 seconds before the treatment stage.

We are planning on to get this on video, so I can upload it on the net for ya fellas to enjoy your laughing . I'll keep ya updated on this when he gives a thumbs up.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:02 pm
by NguyenVanDon
BTW, Thanks for the help on how to treat a pepper spray fellas.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:03 pm
by BrassMonkey
I highly recommend that if you go forward with this thing, you let him spray himself. If inhaled, it can scar lungs and cause permenant damage. I am assuming you do nto want anyone to get hurt. If he is an adult, let him do it himself. Makes for a better bet and video too if you are going to post it on youtube. How many scoville units is the stuff you are talking about?

If you truly want, "Police" grade stuff, it has to be at least 2,000,000 scoville unitss. Unless you are a LEO, you can't really get the stuff legally, I don't think...

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:04 pm
by BrassMonkey
Believe it or not, MILK works better then water. Stomach medicine like Maalox also can be used, it is just messy and well, Maalox...
NguyenVanDon wrote:BTW, Thanks for the help on how to treat a pepper spray fellas.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:40 pm
by stevie_d_64
NguyenVanDon wrote:Me and a group of friends are trying to persuade another friend in the group to get sprayed with pepper spray as a live test. The pot is growing fast up to $150+. So far, it's not a go yet. I think if more money is added into the pot, he will consider on doing it. Here's the rules we came up with:

- 2 multiple burst of Police Magnum OC-17% Pepper Spray.
- Must let Pepper Spray soak in for 30 seconds before the treatment stage.

We are planning on to get this on video, so I can upload it on the net for ya fellas to enjoy your laughing your asses off :lol:. I'll keep ya updated on this when he gives a thumbs up.
My opinion...(all previous levity and kidding aside)

I believe that game is an extremely poor idea...

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:46 pm
by SC1903A3
I've been sprayed several times when receiving OC certification. I personally found the anticipation was the worst part. The second time around I knew what to expect and it wasn't as bad. I found that I personally had about 15 seconds before my eyes were forced shut. Not much time to engage and neutralize your attacker.

Also fair skinned people with blond haired and blue eyes tended to be more sensitive. Don't forget that approximately 5% of the population is not affected by OC.

Now for the big question : If you are sprayed with OC are you justified in using deadly force? Can you articulate why deadly force was justified? I'll let a few of you give your thoughts first.