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Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:43 am
by texanjoker
On this day some years ago, Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit was shot and then executed by a man who he suspected to be involved in a shooting some 45 minutes earlier a few miles away.

The suspect was Oswald and the earlier victim was President John Kennedy.

Officer Tippet saw Oswald walking along a sidewalk and focused on him as the suspect based on a general description of the suspect. Oswald shot Officer Tippit 3 times in the chest after he exited his patrol vehicle and then administered a coup de gras to the temple while Officer Tippit lay prone in the street.

Officer Tippet was buried on the same day as President Kennedy and Oswald. :patriot:

The major media outlets will not tell you about Officer Tippit's involvement nor his death on that day 50 years ago...but I thought that you should know...


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/re ... -flash.ece
http://www.jdtippit.com/

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:52 am
by Purplehood
The media likes to overlook this kind of event so that conspiracy theories such as an LBJ Hit-Squad killed Kennedy can remain alive and flourish 50 years later.

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:24 pm
by ELB
Interesting.

This article about J.D. Tippi's partner, who was in the same general patrol area with Tippit but was not assigned to work directly with him that day, states the following about how Tippit was killed, at variance with the story above:
Officer Tippit was described by Nelson as a, “nice, east Texas guy who loved his family and worked hard and did what he was supposed to do, but wasn’t very curious. He liked to write his tickets and go home. He had a bad habit of not looking at you when he was talking to you.”

Nelson said he had actually talked to Officer Tippit before the fateful day in Dallas about his partner’s tendency toward avoiding eye contact with subjects.

Official reports said that Officer Tippit pulled over Lee Harvey Oswald based on a description that was broadcast over the Dallas Police radio. Oswald then murdered Tippit before leaving the scene of the murder.

Nelson said he believed that Oswald actually flagged Officer Tippit down because he “can’t imagine Tippit pulling him (Oswald) over and saying “come here.”

“I think he (Oswald) was amazed that he wasn’t arrested after the shooting,” Nelson recalled. “The book depository was covered with cops and he walks out! He didn’t appear to have a plan. He couldn’t go home. So he hails a cab and then gets on a bus.”

Another aspect of Nelson’s belief that Tippit didn’t seek out Oswald was that Tippit didn’t secure or guard his pistol and the first shot hit the officer in the temple, suggesting Tippitt was looking away.
There don't seem to be any parts of the JFK assassination story that aren't subject to conflicting accounts.

For the record, I don't think any of the conspiracy theories hold a shred of veracity.

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:53 pm
by texanjoker
Witness views are always conflicting. Regardless the guy died and his death goes unnoticed. Tactics back then were pretty atrocious as well.

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:41 pm
by The Annoyed Man
texanjoker wrote:Witness views are always conflicting. Regardless the guy died and his death goes unnoticed. Tactics back then were pretty atrocious as well.
Tippet got noticed in the "Killing Kennedy" dramatization written by Bill O'Reilly which aired as a made-for-TV movie a few days ago. They didn't go into any great detail about his personality, but they show a scene where he stops Oswald and gets gunned down. The movie says that Oswald was originally arrested for the killing of Officer Tippet, and it wasn't until DPD got him downtown that the FBI realized that DPD had Kennedy's killer already under arrest. Until that moment, even DPD didn't realize that they had the assassin in the interrogation room.

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:49 pm
by WildBill
texanjoker wrote:On this day some years ago, Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit was shot and then executed by a man who he suspected to be involved in a shooting some 45 minutes earlier a few miles away.

The suspect was Oswald and the earlier victim was President John Kennedy.

Officer Tippet saw Oswald walking along a sidewalk and focused on him as the suspect based on a general description of the suspect. Oswald shot Officer Tippit 3 times in the chest after he exited his patrol vehicle and then administered a coup de gras to the temple while Officer Tippit lay prone in the street.

Officer Tippet was buried on the same day as President Kennedy and Oswald. :patriot:

The major media outlets will not tell you about Officer Tippit's involvement nor his death on that day 50 years ago...but I thought that you should know...

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/re ... -flash.ece
http://www.jdtippit.com/
Thanks for the link. Over the years I have tried to find more information about Officer J.D. Tippit, but there hasn't been much written about him. It is sad, but most of the time it is the famous person who gets all of the attention and the others are, at best, footnotes.

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:12 pm
by WildBill
Some more information from Wiki on J.D. Tippit:

On the evening of the assassination, both Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and the new President, Lyndon B. Johnson, called Tippit's widow to express their sympathies. Jacqueline Kennedy wrote a letter expressing sorrow for the bond they shared. The plight of Tippit's family also moved much of the nation and a total of $647,579 (worth $4,937,790 today) was donated to them following the assassination. One of the largest individual gifts was the $25,000 (worth $190,625 today) that Abraham Zapruder donated after selling his film of the assassination.

A funeral service for J.D. Tippit was held on November 25, 1963, at the Beckley Hills Baptist Church, with the burial following at Laurel Land Memorial Park in Dallas. His funeral occurred on the same day as those of both Kennedy and Oswald.

In January 1964, Tippit was posthumously awarded the Medal of Valor from the American Police Hall of Fame, and he also received the Police Medal of Honor, the Police Cross, and the Citizens Traffic Commission Award of Heroism. A memorial to Officer Tippit was unveiled November 20, 2012 at the corner where the shooting occurred (10th and Patton Streets, Dallas, TX).

Tippit's widow married Dallas police lieutenant Harry Dean Thomas in January 1967. They later divorced.

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:08 pm
by Oldgringo
As Paul Harvey would say.....

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:05 am
by texanjoker
The Annoyed Man wrote:
texanjoker wrote:Witness views are always conflicting. Regardless the guy died and his death goes unnoticed. Tactics back then were pretty atrocious as well.
Tippet got noticed in the "Killing Kennedy" dramatization written by Bill O'Reilly which aired as a made-for-TV movie a few days ago. They didn't go into any great detail about his personality, but they show a scene where he stops Oswald and gets gunned down. The movie says that Oswald was originally arrested for the killing of Officer Tippet, and it wasn't until DPD got him downtown that the FBI realized that DPD had Kennedy's killer already under arrest. Until that moment, even DPD didn't realize that they had the assassin in the interrogation room.

I've got the recorded but haven't watched it yet. I look forward to it even more now

Re: Nov 22nd - a different view of this day in history

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:58 am
by philip964
I hope in 2017 the information hidden for so many years is released as planned. Please make sure your candidate for president agrees to not block their release. These items includes important things such as Lee Oswald's tax returns.
His military records were accidentally destroyed in the '70's due to one of those snafus that have always seemed to follow these murders. All have been kept hidden for all these years.

Most conspiracy theories believe that Oswald and Officer Tipett either met for a prearranged meeting or Officer Tippet was sent to kill Oswald. The thought is that Oswald had realized he had been set up or that he realized Officer Tippet was there to kill him and acted first.

Each makes as much sense as Officer Tippet stopping Oswald as Kennedy's killer.

Some of the most interesting things about these murders revolves around things that most of us have not seen but were filmed. The first being Jack Ruby's questioning by the Warren Commission. He states he will answer all there questions , if they will put him under protective federal custody. They refuse, and he says he then cannot tell them the answers to their questions. The second is a press conference John Conolly gave after the Warren Commission findings were released. He disputed the Warren Commission magic bullet theory that the same bullet hit both he and Kennedy. He stated quite strongly that he saw Kennedy get shot and then he was later shot.

Later in his life, he withdrew these beliefs he had previously expressed so passionately on camera. On his death his wife refused to allow all the bullet fragments to be removed from his body so a weight of the fragments could be obtained, so a total bullet weight could be found.

If you have not watched the movie JFK, I would recommend watching it.

Odd it was not rereleased to Blue Ray at this time.