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F&F and gun walking: way more outrageous than reported

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:04 pm
by VMI77
http://weaponsman.com/?p=12297
John Dodson’s The Unarmed Truth is a hell of a book. For one thing, it’s the book that ATF Director B. Todd Jones pulled out all the stops to get pulped prior to publication. That fact alone, that a censorious bureaucrat tried to ban the book, should make you want to read it.
Soon 1,515 guns from Lone Wolf — almost all of them ATF-walked examples — turned up at crime scenes. Lone Wolf, the Post writers type for the ATF, was only 8th on number of crime guns traced; if the other 7 also let just 1500 guns each walk, the total gun count is at least 12,000. How many of those guns were actually walked by the ATF is uncertain, but #8 crime-trace-gun vendor Lone Wolf and #3 J&G Sales both were only selling to cartels’ straw buyers under ATF direction.

Re: F&F and gun walking: way more outrageous than reported

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:42 pm
by baldeagle
And yet, even today, it's no big deal....the corruption in our government is so rampant that it's ho hum normal.

Re: F&F and gun walking: way more outrageous than reported

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:34 pm
by rbwhatever1
Let a Citizen try that with just 1 handgun for a family member and see what happens. He will be nailed quickly for a "Straw Purchase" violation and charged. This was from an earlier post on this forum.

Re: F&F and gun walking: way more outrageous than reported

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:00 am
by VMI77
rbwhatever1 wrote:Let a Citizen try that with just 1 handgun for a family member and see what happens. He will be nailed quickly for a "Straw Purchase" violation and charged. This was from an earlier post on this forum.
Have you heard their latest? They put a mentally challenged man with a criminal record in an ATF pawnshop sting in Florida. In Florida to legally operate a pawnshop all employees must have background checks and clean records. Then they got a guy to sell the pawnshop a gun he had bought at a gunshop and charged him with selling a gun to a felon.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226623

Re: F&F and gun walking: way more outrageous than reported

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:49 am
by MechAg94
VMI77 wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:Let a Citizen try that with just 1 handgun for a family member and see what happens. He will be nailed quickly for a "Straw Purchase" violation and charged. This was from an earlier post on this forum.
Have you heard their latest? They put a mentally challenged man with a criminal record in an ATF pawnshop sting in Florida. In Florida to legally operate a pawnshop all employees must have background checks and clean records. Then they got a guy to sell the pawnshop a gun he had bought at a gunshop and charged him with selling a gun to a felon.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226623
How does that work? I figured the guy would not be selling to the individual in that case, but to the FFL. I wouldn't think the flunky at the counter would be the one actually buying the firearm.