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Stepping over a dying store clerk and not helping. Is it apathy, fear of harm or potential legal repercussions?

Depending on the area, folks tend to keep to themselves and move on. That code of silence and ignorance runs deep. Especially in urban areas where even innocent people refuse to talk to police.

My crew was called to a cardiac arrest in a local night club one Friday evening. There was a big name band playing and the bar would not turn on the lights to help us work this code. We had to keep people going to the bar from stepping over the patient. Some actually got mad that we were interferring with their ability to get a drink.

mojo84 wrote:http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/03/di ... -dying-man

Stepping over a dying store clerk and not helping. Is it apathy, fear of harm or potential legal repercussions?

This occurred in Brooklyn. I think that people who live in big cities are more callous about such things.

If you walked into a store with ppl already there wouldn't you figure emergency services was already called, sounds cold but ya can't do much for a dead man and it is a crime scene. We only see a small clip where is the video from before when he was shot, what happened then.

Look at who they elected as their recent mayors and I think you will find the answer to the question in the body of your post. Look at who this society elected on the national stage and I think you will find the answer to the question in the title of your post.


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I think this type of attitude is becoming more common in places other than NY.

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/03/di ... -dying-man

Stepping over a dying store clerk and not helping. Is it apathy, fear of harm or potential legal repercussions?

This occurred in Brooklyn. I think that people who live in big cities are more callous about such things.

I think WildBill is spot on right. In our hamlet, whoever is lying on the floor is probably a relative of some sort.

"Is this where we are headed as a society?"
Unfortunately, yes. This is not the first video I have seen of this type.

Many of these situations are bad guys shooting bad guys. The clerk could have been unintended victim. Most logical thing may be to clear out and call 911 away from the action.

Omertà

Omertà[1] (/ɵˈmɛərtə/; Italian pronunciation: [omerˈta]) is a cultural attitude and code of honour that places heavy importance on a deep-rooted "code of silence", non-cooperation with authorities, and non-interference in the illegal (and legal) actions of others.

Human life becoming no more valuable than dog food.
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howdy wrote:My crew was called to a cardiac arrest in a local night club one Friday evening. There was a big name band playing and the bar would not turn on the lights to help us work this code. We had to keep people going to the bar from stepping over the patient. Some actually got mad that we were interferring with their ability to get a drink.

I'm not trying to play the "my call was worse than yours was" but while working for MedStar probably it was in the 1990-1995 era, right here in supposedly compassionate people Fort Worth, we got a call for an "unconscious person" at a north-side chicken place that used to be a Church's Chicken, but was now run by some north-side dude. This was ob a weekend day, late afternoon, and when we get there, it's not one of the customers choking on a big piece of chicken, but rather a fairly young dude that was working the drive-up window. He was in cardiac arrest, but the manager had to be forcibly moved by our FD guys, so we could get in there and work this dude. People were honking and got upset because no one at the window (now it's just us and the FD guys) would get them their order.

We worked him for a while (10 minutes or so, through the first round of ACLS drugs) then, to get him out, we had to hoist hin, on the backboard, over the front counter. Since he was a pretty big fellow, he slid on the counter, rather than lifting him way over the counter, and a jar of jalapenos got knocked to the floor. The manager actually thought that the City should pay for the damage, until the PD officer told him that with one more word, he'd find himself arrested for interference of a public servant. He shut up, but the customers who had to exit the narrow front counter space were arguing about who was gonna be first in line!

So, for those who think we're just heading there, I'd suggest that we've already been there, for a while!

howdy wrote:My crew was called to a cardiac arrest in a local night club one Friday evening. There was a big name band playing and the bar would not turn on the lights to help us work this code. We had to keep people going to the bar from stepping over the patient. Some actually got mad that we were interferring with their ability to get a drink.

Were there any LEO's on scene? If so you might have asked them to clear the bar. I used to love it when I got a chance to do something like that. I might have cleared everyone out and not even let the owners back in until the patient was on the ambulance. They deserved it.