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Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:56 pm
by philip964
http://blog.heritage.org/2014/02/05/neb ... ium=social" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A somewhat preachy article about police just doing there job in seizing what still looks to me like drug money.

To me the real point is don't consent.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:16 pm
by cb1000rider
Just be aware as it's not going to be as easy as a single "no thank you".. At least not in my experience.

Who travels with 1M in cash? Especially when headed to NJ...

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:25 pm
by texanjoker
1 million cash? Sounds fishy I'll bet the IRS is looking at that.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:58 pm
by jmra
texanjoker wrote:1 million cash? Sounds fishy I'll bet the IRS is looking at that.
From the OPs link:
"Mishra had saved this money over many years and had the documentation—including tax returns—to prove it"

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:07 pm
by Oldgringo
Consonant with another ongoing thread, viewtopic.php?f=83&t=71371" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, the message is clear. Don't exceed posted speed limits!

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:49 pm
by texanjoker
jmra wrote:
texanjoker wrote:1 million cash? Sounds fishy I'll bet the IRS is looking at that.
From the OPs link:
"Mishra had saved this money over many years and had the documentation—including tax returns—to prove it"
I'm skeptical regardless. Either way she got it back. She was lucky her car wasn't stolen.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:38 pm
by jmra
texanjoker wrote:
jmra wrote:
texanjoker wrote:1 million cash? Sounds fishy I'll bet the IRS is looking at that.
From the OPs link:
"Mishra had saved this money over many years and had the documentation—including tax returns—to prove it"
I'm skeptical regardless. Either way she got it back. She was lucky her car wasn't stolen.
Of course you are skeptical - she's not a LEO.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:37 pm
by mojo84
It's a shame people are automatically.... Oh nevermind.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:13 pm
by texanjoker
jmra wrote:
texanjoker wrote:
jmra wrote:
texanjoker wrote:1 million cash? Sounds fishy I'll bet the IRS is looking at that.
From the OPs link:
"Mishra had saved this money over many years and had the documentation—including tax returns—to prove it"
I'm skeptical regardless. Either way she got it back. She was lucky her car wasn't stolen.
Of course you are skeptical - she's not a LEO.

Its ok to say it, but just because one wins or looses a lawsuit does not mean they were not doing anything illegal or not. It is not normal to carry 1 million in cash.... That is learned real quick in my work.

For the record I would NOT consent to a search of my car and have told border patrol that before :thumbs2:

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:16 pm
by philip964
A while back, I went to Las Vegas over one weekend to buy a $5000 Porsche. I wanted to get it on the carrier right then back to Texas. Needed to bring cash. I brought $5000 in traveler's checks.

Who has a million dollars in cash on a trip, except a drug courier?

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:43 pm
by chasfm11
texanjoker wrote: For the record I would NOT consent to a search of my car and have told border patrol that before :thumbs2:
And how did that go? I've only seen the videos of people who were not cooperating with Border Patrol and it looked contentious at best. The BP threatened to call DPS for an arrest. I cannot imagine how much fun that might be to watch - DPS arresting an active LEO for refusal of a BP search. I'm not sure that I'd have enough popcorn. :biggrinjester:

I've been fortunate at the interior checkpoints even in the RV. Having something that big usually makes you a target. I will play the game to answer that the occupants are US citizens but that is as far as I'm willing to go. They've walked the outside with dogs but that is fine with me, too. Beyond that, it could get ugly. My attitude is that if you aren't willing to watch the border, you darn sure should not be watching me when I never have left US soil. Bring a warrant or leave me alone.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:34 am
by Cedar Park Dad
Not border related but how effective is that. I've taught my children to politely not consent to anything. My boy was stopped for speeding, he didn't consent and they searched his vehicle anyway.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:48 am
by texanjoker
chasfm11 wrote:
texanjoker wrote: For the record I would NOT consent to a search of my car and have told border patrol that before :thumbs2:
And how did that go? I've only seen the videos of people who were not cooperating with Border Patrol and it looked contentious at best. The BP threatened to call DPS for an arrest. I cannot imagine how much fun that might be to watch - DPS arresting an active LEO for refusal of a BP search. I'm not sure that I'd have enough popcorn. :biggrinjester:

I've been fortunate at the interior checkpoints even in the RV. Having something that big usually makes you a target. I will play the game to answer that the occupants are US citizens but that is as far as I'm willing to go. They've walked the outside with dogs but that is fine with me, too. Beyond that, it could get ugly. My attitude is that if you aren't willing to watch the border, you darn sure should not be watching me when I never have left US soil. Bring a warrant or leave me alone.

It was fine. In CA coming back from the desert you always went through a check point. The delay was annoying enough and I'm not going to be delayed even further by a check of the RV. They were fine with it. I had a guy a couple weeks back that I KNEW had dope on him, told me no. Good enough for me. He was dumb enough to go but if you really want too, ect so I could have, but to me no is no regardless and I told him I don't violate peoples 4th amendment rights :thumbs2:

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:09 am
by steveincowtown
mojo84 wrote:It's a shame people are automatically.... Oh nevermind.

Yup...

We all throw our hands in the air when the left says "How could someone possibly need an AR15, or a .50 cal, etc."

Then someone is traveling with funds that we don't think makes sense and at least 1/2 of us start saying how she should automatically be a suspect and is probably a drug dealer.

Re: Don't consent to a search of your car

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:50 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
Cedar Park Dad wrote:Not border related but how effective is that. I've taught my children to politely not consent to anything. My boy was stopped for speeding, he didn't consent and they searched his vehicle anyway.
Time to file charges.
Burglary Auto is a State Jail Felony. Under color of authority makes it a third degree felony.
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