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Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:29 pm
by G.A. Heath
So let me see if I got this right, OC long guns and BP guns into the state GOP convention to get law makers attention? This will not end well...
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Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:39 pm
by gljjt
With a little luck, the TABC rules will keep OC guns out of the convention center while still allowing CC. This would be very much unneeded publicity. As far as the parking lot, hopefully good sense will prevail and these folks will see the light.

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:40 pm
by C-dub
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Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:05 pm
by nightmare69
This could be interesting. TABC can legally keep long guns from entering but since black powder handguns are not considered firearms under penal code then I don't see them being able to legally stop OCT from entering.

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:12 pm
by gljjt
nightmare69 wrote:This could be interesting. TABC can legally keep long guns from entering but since black powder handguns are not considered firearms under penal code then I don't see them being able to legally stop OCT from entering.
Same way they restrict outside food/drinks, video recorders, ice chests, etc. Its just another item. The only thing I see they can't restrict is a concealed handgun carried under a CHL.

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:14 pm
by VoiceofReason
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Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:14 pm
by gljjt
Ok, there are other items they can't restrict, service animals, wheelchairs, etc, but I'm talking in the context of firearms and other items not protected by law.

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:26 pm
by nightmare69
They could always just tell them to leave, problem solved.

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:15 am
by RogueUSMC
That would require that a person 'afeared' of guns to approach a person in possession of this dreadful device and say something to that person that that person may not want to hear...and we ALL know how dangerous that might be considering how they are clearly not in their right mind. The fact that they are not in their right mind is evidenced by the fact that they are in possession of this dreadful device to begin with. Let's just make a law that says they cannot carry these dreadful devices and all will be peachy...

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:11 pm
by EEllis
nightmare69 wrote:This could be interesting. TABC can legally keep long guns from entering but since black powder handguns are not considered firearms under penal code then I don't see them being able to legally stop OCT from entering.

Well among other things if the DA wants they can give a weapons charge and make a defendant prove the gun is a qualifying replica or made before 1889. It isn't any BP handgun but exact copies of weapons made before 1889. If they have the wrong barrel or finish they may not qualify thus police can not be required to know every possible qualifying firearm. Then there is the fact that the exemption was for the purposes of collecting and specifically historical recreations so the intent was not to allow unlicensed open carry of deadly weapons. If they are in public with these guns and not dressed in historical outfits then how is the public supposed to react on seeing what appears to be illegal action, open carry of a firearm and so you have the disturbing the peace fall back.

And by the way while it is a stretch to arrest and charge someone for weapon offences just for possession of a BP firearm there is precedent for doing so. If you commit any crime that allows a firearm enhancement you will get it if you carry a BP gun. The C&R exemption, if you'll forgive my naming it as such, only applies when treating the gun as antiques, not to using them as weapons. When carried and treated as weapons by the possessors the courts tend to hold that there is no exemption. A activist DA could certainly try and push this to cover OC advocates and they would have more than enough basis to do so. Now before people start yelling at me how wrong I am I'm just repeating how the courts have ruled.

Re: Brilliant idea for OC efforts, or maybe not...

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:29 pm
by XinTX
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