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Former CHL Holder wrote:@ anygunanywhere:[/color][/i][/b] I decided I'd hesitate at the worst moment, given my growing LE paranoia. I had a bad encounter with an off duty, out-of-uniform Constable's Deputy doing a mall security job 7 some odd years ago. 1st degree felony charge, GJ dismissal, written expunction, suggestion that I file an IA complaint - no thanks) and gave me back the pistol & CHL. Ever since, I get nervous every LEO I see, a PTSD like effect that's grown, not faded away.

anygunanywhere wrote:

Former CHL Holder wrote:@ anygunanywhere:[/color][/i][/b] I decided I'd hesitate at the worst moment, given my growing LE paranoia. I had a bad encounter with an off duty, out-of-uniform Constable's Deputy doing a mall security job 7 some odd years ago. 1st degree felony charge, GJ dismissal, written expunction, suggestion that I file an IA complaint - no thanks) and gave me back the pistol & CHL. Ever since, I get nervous every LEO I see, a PTSD like effect that's grown, not faded away.

I have had bad encounters too although not as recent as yours. I will admit that I have never forgotten the bad experiences but like you alluded to in a previous post, there are vastly more very good professional LEO than bad ones, and I venture to say especially so here in Texas. Whenever I have an encounter I always give them respect first and try to make the encounter as positive as possible. I also am very aware of what my constitutional rights are and will nt give any of them up.

I certainly hope you are a able to resolve your issues and put everything behind you. Your giving up a tool that allows you to further exercise your rights (with the state's permission, of course) should concern you a lot.

Did you consult with your attorney about your experience?

Anygunanywhere

Yes. Not worth it and finally sending back the CHL resolves things the best they can be. It's been a slow burn, getting worse over the years, always worried what a LEO might do, even though I'm very good at concealed carry, nobody ever knew I was wearing a 1911. Your comment appreciated about rights but I don't believe we really have them, just an illusion that somehow when they're infringed, somebody might help secure them. Not likely I'm sad to say, our elected officials in the vast majority see themselves as our betters, NOT our employees temporarily chosen to represent us in an efficient manner of organization. They don't see public service as that; it's a profession and career and they will trample rights to secure their place. Look at the President of the USA's recent comments on gun legislation failures as his biggest frustration. Obamacare broken right out of the box after how much money and time? Unemployment how high for how long? Real income at what level for how long? None of that frustrates him as much as gun confiscation's failure? Gun crime and gun ownership facts don't register there? Of course they do, BUT...he and his calculate that his position on guns gains more ground for his political interests than it loses, and so they attack a constitutional right that's supposed to be ABOVE politics. Disarming a population is ALWAYS beneficial to government. ALWAYS. Has the POTUS ever read the Nat'l Firearms Act of 1934, Gun Control Act of 1968, The Texas CHL laws, the Federalist Papers, Militia Act of 1903 and if so, from where do they extract the comments that America needs "common sense, reasonable gun legislation"? From their backsides, it seems. LEOs are their agents and too many I am afraid, will succumb to infringements of our rights. California and New Jersey have recently introduced both national and state bills to allow a family member to report a mentally impaired gun owner and allow LE to take them away. This is bald faced attempt to circumvent the Fourth Amendment because a family member is ALREADY in the house; it would chip a big hole in 2A rights. Look at these federal attempts to limit campaign donations; so free speech has a price tag? I didn't see that in my copy of the Bill of Rights, but it's a federal law now.
So, returning to topic.... I still support CC for anyone willing and know I have many good, fellow Texas citizens with a point-of-view more favorable than mine; collectively there will be enough to continue the deterrence effect we now enjoy.

Mike.B wrote:If you mailed it to DPS without any explanation, I bet they assumed you're one of those people who return the old card after an address change, so they disposed of it without any fuhrer action. However, if you followed the process for people who surrender their CHL before being convicted to avoid the extra two years if DPS revokes it, then they probably voided your license as requested. However, you're in the database forever, no matter if it's active, expired, surrendered, or revoked.

jbarn wrote:Just curious... what do you hope to accomplish by sending it back?